Digital BW, The Print

Hi Jerry,

Comparing recent samples of William Tunrer 190, 310 and and OLD sample of
ConeTech Wells River (from about this time last year), I would concur that
there are indeed three different textures and roughness in evidence. The
ConeTech was roughest, the WT190 next, and the WT 310 'smoothest'.

Aha - just found a recent sample of ConeTech Wells River... it is VERY
similar to the UK William Turner 190, perhaps slightly rougher, but nothing
I couldn't attribute to mould wearing. Also, the texture is very similar
also, and compared to the Wells River from Feb last year, is  quite
different. The newer Wells River 190 and the William Turner 190 also share a
very similar wire texture on the back... strangely the WT 310 is quite
different. The old Wells River did not just have a rough watercolour
texture, but it has just a hint of weave in the texture like Chelsea or
something.

By the way, I did have some flaking with the older Wells River, but it was
resolved when I started brushing the paper... I don't tend to use it much
though, on account of US paper sizes ;) Again, I haven't used the newer
stuff recently either, as I selected Photo Rag for my own personal use when
it came to doing 'real work' last Q4 last year.

Who knows? ;)

Hope this helps,
nij



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Olson [mailto:jerryolson@...]
> Sent: 11 April 2002 03:00
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemule William Turner
>
>
> Right, but the surfaces were far too different to be attributable to
> "Moulds".
> There was something else afoot. The texture and feel of the two papers
> were far apart. Could be mislabeled? Dunno, haven't tried it lately.
>
> Are you now saying that Wells river (william turner lite) is no longer
> sandy, and has no flaking troubles?
>
> Jerry
>
>
> Nij aoth44 wrote:
> >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > We've gone over this before ;)  William Turner comes in two
> weights - 190
> > and 310... and ConeTech even admit to Wells River being WT 190 (to my
> > recollection anyhow!) Which is not to say that there haven't been some
> > surface tesxture problems with the paper in the past. Also, mould-made
> > papers do have surface texture changes over time as the moulds
> wear down...
> > this is normal.
> >
> > I think it was about this time last year that several people
> raised issue
> > with Cone Wells River paper - I haven't heard any recently
> (apart from your
> > comments which I think are based on your 'historic' experience
> rather than
> > recent???)
> >
> > Best regards,
> > nij