Digital BW, The Print

No, you need a thicker coat than sprays provide.  The key is to get the
pigment and paper saturated...then with successive coats you build up a
smooth film that sits on top of the paper/print.  The thicker the film the
glosser the print becomes.  Its just like varnishing a painting.

Robert

On 4/11/02 2:01 PM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote:

> Martin, is it possible to use a spray bottle of some kind?
> 
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 7:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
> 
> 
>> Robert,
>> 
>> I did try coating some Eclipse last summer and the results we good but my
>> brush work was lacking. I found it harder to work with in the area of
>> streaking, etc. I realize that the paper may have changed since then.
>> 
>> I am not surprised that you got a better Dmax using the Epson driver. I
>> noticed long ago it gave deeper blacks than the Piezo driver even with the
>> Piezo inks.
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
>> 
>> 
>>> Just coated some BW prints on Museo and Eclipse last night.  I ran gray
>>> wedges and black patches just to see where the dmax is at these days.  I
>>> printed with John Woolf's work flow and Piezo inks.  This yields an
>> uncoated
>>> dmax of 1.57 with both Museo and Eclipse.  When the papers are coated
> the
>>> dmax goes to 2.05 for Eclipse and 2.10 for Museo.  The Museo prints have
> a
>>> high gloss, while the Eclipse prints just have a satin sheen.
>>> 
>>> In my experience, this dmax is equal to or exceeds pigment prints on
> gloss
>>> papers, even when sprayed with Krylon.
>>> 
>>> For those of you have been experimenting with coatings (Martin)...you
> owe
>> it
>>> to yourself to print on Eclipse and coat.  If you thought the prints
> that
>>> you have seen in the past look "plastic"...I think you will really like
>>> this.
>>> 
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/10/02 1:51 PM, "Richard Wolfson" <richard@...> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi Robert -
>>>> 
>>>> oh, ok. I understand now. I saw the September part, but figured I'd
> just
>>>> missed some prior postings on method. I didn't get that it's
>>>> proprietary. That's cool.
>>>> 
>>>> If you're maintaining an email list for a product announcement, I'd be
>>>> pleased if you'd add mine. Good luck, and thanks for getting back to
> me.
>>>> 
>>>> Richard
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Wolfson
>>>> fine art photographer and printmaker
>>>> (978) 456-3033
>>>> www.rwolfson.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Robert G. Morrison [mailto:rmorrison@...]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:43 PM
>>>>> To: Richard Wolfson
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I said below...
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Currently, I'm hoping to have a commercial product out by next
>>>>>>> September...but no promises.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Until that time I can't say anything about my process or
>>>>> materials...I'm under a non-disclosure agreement.  All I can
>>>>> tell you is what to expect in performance...also below.  If
>>>>> you would like to see a coated print...I'm sending them out
>>>>> through the Piezo and DigitalBW exchanges over the next
>>>>> several months.  Robert Rex also has sample prints of Museo
>>>>> coated. Brightcube will also be traveling with coated Eclipse
>>>>> prints soon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry I can't be more helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Robert
>>>>> 
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