Digital BW, The Print

Robert,

No to be argumentative, but why even post your results if you are not
willing to tell people how to get the results that you state. This is a list
for folks to advance the state of the art and discuss their results. By not
sharing, but taking are you not in fact looking to benefit financially from
what you have learned?

Paul Roark is a prime example. He spends hundreds of hours to help advance
the state of the art, and get nothing in return except for his satisfaction
of helping people.

If I am wrong, I stand corrected. If not, I find it difficult to have you
talking about your results that you can not tell us about. Here we share
papers, inks and experience. In one sense I feel that you are telling us
about how great your dmax is, you are testing papers we are sending you, and
you will be profiting.

If I am wrong, let me know. No ill will here, just a bit of a concern.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited


> Unfortunately, I can't say what I'm using at this point...but I'm not
using
> polyurethanes!  The key to not getting brush strokes is not to use a
brush!
> I use either a #15 meyer rod...for a perfect finish or a foam roller for a
> quicker coat.  The roller has the problem of foam...I believe that all the
> things that Martin has tried foam pretty badly.  You might try some
antifoam
> (hint, hint).  It is possible to get beautiful coated prints....but it
> really took some doing.  That's why I tried to develop a commercial
product.
> I should know very shortly if that is going to go ahead.  If it doesn't
I'll
> release what I'm doing to the list.  I'd love to see a fully formulated
> product available for folks to buy.  If it doesn't work out with the
people
> that I'm talking to now...I have a back up plan...but I should be able to
> release the current information soon.
>
> Sorry to be so mysterious...I just have a lot of time and money into
> this...and I need to follow my lawyer's directions at the moment.
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 4/11/02 2:31 PM, "Michael Kravit" <michael.kravit@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Which coating are you using? Golden?
> >
> > Also, do you get brush strokes?
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating revisited
> >
> >
> >> Just coated some BW prints on Museo and Eclipse last night.  I ran gray
> >> wedges and black patches just to see where the dmax is at these days.
I
> >> printed with John Woolf's work flow and Piezo inks.  This yields an
> > uncoated
> >> dmax of 1.57 with both Museo and Eclipse.  When the papers are coated
the
> >> dmax goes to 2.05 for Eclipse and 2.10 for Museo.  The Museo prints
have a
> >> high gloss, while the Eclipse prints just have a satin sheen.
> >>
> >> In my experience, this dmax is equal to or exceeds pigment prints on
gloss
> >> papers, even when sprayed with Krylon.
> >>
> >> For those of you have been experimenting with coatings (Martin)...you
owe
> > it
> >> to yourself to print on Eclipse and coat.  If you thought the prints
that
> >> you have seen in the past look "plastic"...I think you will really like
> >> this.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other
> > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
> > - Include your full name with your message.
> > - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to
keep
> > them short.
> > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject
header.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
"flames."
> > - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various
> > resources on the homepage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------
> Robert Morrison
> rmorrison@...
>
> 310-397-2704
>
> 4131 Bledsoe Ave.
> Los Angeles, CA 90066
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - Include your full name with your message.
> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
them short.
> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames."
> - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various
resources on the homepage.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>