Hi Martin, hi Antonis, hi everybody At first let me thank you for inviting me to join this list. So far I´ve only been a member of the piezo list where I´ve learned a lot of you piezo-guys while my input was rather small. Thank you all for your generous attitude in sharing your experiences. So what could be my input to this list. Well, I know that the German Fine Art Papers of the Hahnemühle are loved a lot by Fine Art Printers world wide. Unfortunately there has been great confusion in the past about their papers caused by different labels used by different distributors, coating changes by Hahnemühle and private coatings of resellers. But nevertheless W. Turner (Wells River and so on ), German Etching (Orwell and so on) and for some of us Torchon too, seem to be recognized as first choice papers if it comes to the high end. But there have been some critics too. The surface-character of Torchon is disputed (loved by some, hated by others depending on the kind of images to be reproduced I suppose). The surface of W. Turner is criticised a lot because of flaking problems and its haptic characteristics (sandy!!). Even the surface of German Etching is not satisfying for everybody (not smooth enough and sometimes flaking). I tried to transmitt those critics to Hahnemühle in the past and surprise: they took it serious and even admitted the problems. As a consolation they told me, that they will come up with a new paper in August/September which should resolve those problems. It is called PHOTO RAG and will be 100% rag/cotton, acid free with a smoother surface than W. Turner while keeping its print characteristics. I´ll get some sample sheets this week and will report on their printing characteristics with piezo inks next week. Lets see if it holds promise. Well I´m no Hahnemühle employee, so what else is new at the German Fine Art Paper Front: Someone of the piezo-list guys mentioned Schoellershammer papers some weeks ago. Schoellershammer is a traditional German paper mill too, some hundred years old. They are producing fine art inkjet papers for some times , what I didn´t know until now. Meanwhile I ordered a sample pack, which arrived some days ago, and I printed some papers. Here come some PLELIMINARY results: 1. All papers are acid free 100 % rag 2. Schoellershammer claim to have optimized coating for dye based inks (what doesn´t exclude to use pigment-inks) 3. their labeling is absolutely confusion to me that means: although they call some of their paper qualities rough, these are very very smooth (sic!!!) 4. they have at least one paper, which may be an absolute winner for piezo-users 1. paper quality is called: Watercolor Quality: Torchon, 200 gsm 2. paper quality is called: Watercolor/Pastel Quality: Rough, 200 gsm 3. paper quality is called: Watercolor Quality: Rough, 225, 300 gsm 4. paper quality is called: Oilcolor Quality: Coarse Linen, 200, 300 gsm ad 1. Torchon is rather alike Torchon of Hahnemühle, special surface for special indications in my opinion, not my game, didn´t print on it yet. ad 2. Pastell rough 200gsm: didn´t take the piezo ink very well, overall impression was: flaw. But I had only one sheet and printed with the Orwell profile, so maybe another profile works better. But 200 gsm is a little thin, no? ad 3: Watercolor rough: had only two sheets. One 225 and one 300. printed on the 225 sheet with the Orwell profile first: result too dark, no serious comment possible. Printed the second sheet (300) after some curve tweaking in PS and surprise: it came out like my best prints on Epson Archival Matte, Somerset or even German Etching. A winner for piezo, I believe (so far). Why: It is 100 % rag, it has 300gsm, the surface is a lot smoother than W. Turner, even significantly smoother than German Etching though a very little less smooth than Epsom Archival Matte. The color is like German Etching, which means not as bright white as EAM. Print Quality was surprisingly good if you take in account that the paper is not profiled yet and I took the Orwell profile by chance. I ordered some sheets and will report again. Hope the paper fulfils my expectations. ad 4.: Coarse linen: nothing for serious fine art printing in my opinion. Like Hahnemühle Canvas Artist. Didn´t print on it. So to answer my question about a possible input to this list: As I am aware of the language barrier some of the users might have when they have questions or comments with reference to the German Fine Art Papers I could offer to be a transmitter of our critics and wishes to the German industry. If that is appreciated feel free to contact me onlinne or offline. So long. And good luck to the list. Bernd Langmack Essen, Germany
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German Fine Art Papers (long)
2001-07-31 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
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