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Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemule William Turner

2002-04-11 by Jerry Olson

Generations black is blacker than the double density black.

Jerry

Robert Morrison wrote:
> 
> Well, Museo and Eclipse blow away Hahnemuhle with both MIS color inks and
> the Indelibles.  Blacks are .1 to .15 dmax better with the MIS double
> density black.
> 
> > but all of the shops I know that do are
> > using Torchon in 35-3/4 x 47-3/4" sheets or H. Canvas
> 
> Its the German mystique!
> 
> I can't believe anyone uses Torchon for anything...that is the weirdest
> surface I've ever seen!  I haven't seen the canvas...but I know Brightcube's
> canvas is fantastic with these inks and is a lot cheaper.
> 
> Robert
> 
> RobertOn 4/11/02 2:16 PM, "Michael Kravit" <michael.kravit@...>
> wrote:
> 
> > Inferior color prints?
> >
> > Hmm, I don't do much fine art color, but all of the shops I know that do are
> > using Torchon in 35-3/4 x 47-3/4" sheets or H. Canvas.
> >
> > I also like BrightCube.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemule William Turner
> >
> >
> >> I've used most of them...wells river, orwell, torchon, photorag...and
> >> honestly...they give nice BW prints (inferior color prints, however) but
> > in
> >> my opinion not that much better than the competition.  They also have
> >> problems...like flaking...OB's...and poor coating properties.  So I've
> >> decided to go another way where I can deal with suppliers (Crane &
> >> Brightcube) who are very forthright about their papers.
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> On 4/10/02 6:36 PM, "Michael Kravit" <michael.kravit@...>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Robert,
> >>>
> >>> You will never know what you are missing. ;-)
> >>> And, it will leave more for the rest of us......
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
> >>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:33 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Hahnemule William Turner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> My daily rant...this is why I won't use Hahnemuhle papers...you never
> > are
> >>>> sure what you are getting!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Robert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> ----------------------
> >> Robert Morrison
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> Robert Morrison
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> 4131 Bledsoe Ave.
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