Digital BW, The Print

Thank you Dr. Kravit.  I have to go make a house call up in San
Francisco...but I'll put Museo on the examining table with both Piezo and
thee MIS FSN inks when I return.


Robert


On 4/12/02 4:20 PM, "Michael Kravit" <michael.kravit@...>
wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> Made me smile. We have gone from zones to histograms. Perhaps we can rename
> them histozones.
> 
> Anyway, based upon comaprison to a 21 step tablet, I would say we are
> speaking about the 25 to 55% patches.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 6:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Museo Mottling
> 
> 
>>> I have noticed that with MIS-FS inks, Museo mottles in the smooth sky
> areas
>>> where a Zone V or Zone VI north sky occurs. Has anyone else noticed this?
>> 
>> What's the gray scale range that people are having problems with?...I'll
>> check it out thoroughly on my printers.
>> 
>> Sorry...I'm not a "real" photographer so Zone V or Zone VI doesn't mean
>> anything to me other than I should know what it is...and if I knew what it
>> was I would probably have better negatives...but now the D1x gives me an
>> instant histogram...so I'm afraid that I'm not destined to learn the zone
>> system...alas.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 4/12/02 1:10 PM, "Robert G. Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote:
>> 
>>> It probably isn't overload in Eclipse...that paper is made for 12 color
>>> printing.  It has an extremely high ink load...that's why it doesn't
> work
>>> with any of the Piezo profiles for other papers.
>>> 
>>> Robert
>>> 
>>> On 4/11/02 6:26 PM, "Michael Kravit" <michael.kravit@...>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> I found that Bright Cube Eclipse Satine mottles with Piezo inks but
> never
>>>> with MIS inks. I don't believe that it is overload as I am running a
> custon
>>>> profile with my RIP made for Museo. It might be the way the coating
> accepts
>>>> the MIS inks.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "stevekphoto" <stevek@...>
>>>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:21 PM
>>>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Museo Mottling
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting! I've been getting a bit of grittiness or mottling at
>>>>> about that point with my experimental VM set on Brightcube Eclipse
>>>>> and Somerset VE. Is it overload, do you think? Odly enough, the
>>>>> cheaper Epson Watercolor handles it beautifuly-what do we know about
>>>>> this paper other than the weight being too light, is it worth
>>>>> putting ink on?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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