Digital BW, The Print

Adrian, maybe it's just that one image that is having problems. When I print the stepwedge, the MIS black patch is ever so slightly darker than the piezo black patch. Maybe the paper surface makes a difference too.

Jerry




Adrian Joyner wrote:

> Jerry
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> Paul has been so good to email me to ensure that I had set-up the 1160/MIS absolutely correctly. I hadn't as the colorspace was wrong. That guy has worked so hard to get this process right.
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> I explained to Paul that after printing the ProofofPiezography file again I had to say that the MIS 92% is still
> noticeably lighter than the Piezo 92% and consequently my very dark Scottish hillside image still looks strange with what I still consider to be artificial and unnecessary stretching of the dark tones
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> But I'm also inclined to say 'What the heck' as I've printed out another dozen more conventional  contrast previously Piezo images and there isn't one that I definitely prefer in Piezo and many that look better in MIS/Roark. If I add into the evaluation I have a choice of tone, I don't get clogs or banding and the price of the MIS inks then I am very happy".
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> I'm certainly not giving up on Piezo as it is still a very formidable system and for some images may still be unsurpassable but the MIS/Roark VM is here to stay in my image making toolbox. I just hope that Jon Cone responds aggressively with some new products or developments and we will all benefit.
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> Adrian Joyner
> Clevedon
> England
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jerry Olson
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 3:53 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS vs. Piezo... again
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>   Adrian, which curve are you using with MIS? Paul is up to the 15th version of his cool curve now. The first ones were not accurate, of course. They still are not finalized. I don't seem to have any problems with his current curves. The latest ones are all very good, he is now just super fine tuning them.
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>   Jerry
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>   Adrian Joyner wrote:
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>   > Jerry
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>   > Perhaps I didn't explain my observation as well as I should.
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>   > I don't want to lose or compress any shadow detail whatsoever. Piezo on some papers, especially Wells River,  the new Photo Rag and to a slightly lesser extent Epson Archival Matte  is capable of printing  and differentiating between 90% and 100% blacks in 1% increments. I can see that on the proof of piezography test print and on my images that rely on shadow detail quite easily.. I want a deep black and I want to visibly see all the small changes and nuances of black tone  in the shadows in as discrete and subtle increments as possible.
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>   > What I don't want to see is that shadow detail is expanded by just lowering the 90% black to say 85% which is what I perceive with my MIS set-up so that what Piezo would have printed as a dark but not absolute black is printed as a deep gray by MIS.
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>   > Maybe there is something wrong with my set-up. Paul has asked me for details which I have sent him. To echo others we should all be grateful for his efforts on our behalf.
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>   > Adrian Joyner
>   > Clevedon
>   > England
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