Digital BW, The Print

I used to refill Canon carts on a 4-color BJ600 some years ago. The carts
were tiny & refilling was messy.

The bigger issue was that the bubblejets simply were not very durable. None
of them lasted very long. Epsons, by comparison, are tanks.

I stopped buying Canon bubblejets several years ago, so maybe their quality
has improved... They certainly do make great cameras.

But I will not be the one to test their new printers.
-BK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2002 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Canon printers


> If these cartridges are really easy to refill, could we not just get
> blank cartridges and refill them with the MIS VM inkset? We wouldn't
> really need a CIS system for the printer if the cartridges were easy to
fill!
>
> Paul, would you have to write curves for this setup, or could you use
> the same MIS curves for both the Canon and Epson? The canon has a higher
> resolution than epson, doesn't it?
>
> I'll be in the market for another printer in a few months, so just want
> to check this out before buying.
>
> Jerry
>
> Don Rooney wrote:
> >
> > Paul
> > I have a Canon S9000 (13 x 19) and a Canon BJC 8200 (8.5 x 11). Both
units take the SAME exact carts (no chips) and the machines are over 2 years
apart in age from each other. So Canon does not force you to have several
different carts for several different machines --- a nice feature I think !
IMHO the Canon out prints any Epson I've ever seen (please no flames -- just
my opinion) in the color category. The carts are very easy to refill and
because of the big (relative size to the Epson) sponge in the cart -- no
foam issues. And I guess because of the way Canon gets the ink out of the
carts there is no vacuum needed.  To me it looks gravity fed but I'm sure
its some other high tech solution. I have had the BJC 8200 for over 2 years
and never (never) any clogs. I have been waiting for any B&W inkset to come
out for the Canon units. I'd gladly start using them ASAP. You get them made
and I'll start buying them. One other thing -- I have never seen any banding
at all.
> > Don Rooney
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Paul Roark
> >   To: DigitalB&WPrint
> >   Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 7:19 PM
> >   Subject: [Digital BW] Canon printers
> >
> >   Has anyone had any experiences with the Canon printers?
> >
> >   As you know, I'm a big fan of competition.  So, if there is an
alternate
> >   printer for third party inks -- B&W quads in particular -- it would
seem to
> >   be a real boon to those of us on this list.
> >
> >   MIS has told me they are getting strong demand for quadtone inks for
> >   the Canon S800, S900, S9000 printers.  They are just finishing a
> >   Continuous Flow set up for them.   I
> >
> >   MIS thinks Canon has done a good job in trying  to come up to the
Epson
> >   standard.  If Epson is a 10 on the zero to 10 scale, then the new
Canon
> >   printers are a 9 + in MIS's opinion.
> >
> >   Some attractive characteristics of the Canon machines include that
refilling
> >   is easy, with no foam problems like the Epson's, and there are
> >   no chips to deal with.  Moreover, each color has it's own cartridge
and
> >   they are see through.
> >
> >   Any opinions or interest in these machines?  I'm thinking a "no
curves,"
> >   modified FS-Neutral inkset might be a way to get the ball rolling in
giving
> >   Epson a little competition in our area of interest.
> >
> >   Any opinions or interest in these machines or quad inksets for them?
> >
> >   Paul
> >   http://www.PaulRoark.com
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