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Re: [Digital BW] Glossy Paper Screen

2002-04-21 by Robert Morrison

One other note.  The images on the best of these papers could be framed
without spraying...but the surfaces are delicate...so you would need to
mount/frame to prevent people from handling them.  A light coat of Krylon
solves this problem...but if you want to preserve the true gross surface of
papers like the Spectra Jet of the Brightcube Gloss or Epson Premium Matte
you will need to not spray.

Robert


On 4/20/02 11:51 PM, "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote:

> Results from a recent gloss/semi-gloss paper screen that I have conducted
> are posted in the files section:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/Paper%20Dat
> a/
> 
> The file is glossypaperscreen.pdf
> 
> I tested 14 different glossy and pearl papers:
> 
> Brightcube Gloss 
> Brightcube ProPhoto Silk
> conetech Glossy 
> Epson Colorlife 
> Epson Photo Paper
> Epson Premium Glossy
> Epson Premium Luster
> Hawk Mountain Sharpwing
> Kodak Ultima Satin
> Kodak Professional EI Premium Photographic Glossy Paper
> Kodak Professional EI Premium Photographic Satin Paper
> Lumijet Geniune Pearl
> Red River Ultra Pro Satin
> Tetenal Spectra Jet
> 
> I used piezo inks with the piezo driver with the Epson Photo Paper profile.
> I'm in the process of running the best of these papers with the MIS FS-N
> inks using both the piezo driver and the epson driver.  So far results have
> been very comparable with the different ink set.  Reciprocity may vary
> slightly with the Epson driver, given that different quantities of inks may
> be used for a given gray level.
> 
> After printing gray wedges and a test image twice, I sprayed one image with
> four quick coats of Krylon UV Resistant Spray (1305) and remeasured the dmax
> and checked smear.
> 
> GENERAL COMMENTS
> Contrary to many comments on this list, there are many glossy papers that
> work relatively well with Piezo and MIS FS inks.  I noticed very little
> bronzing with the papers that I used and for the most part only the Kodak
> papers had problems with reticulation using the piezo driver.  That said,
> none of these papers passed a 24 hour smear test, until they were sprayed.
> ALL the papers passed the test after they were sprayed.  It is also critical
> to but your printer on the low printhead setting and carefully do print hear
> alignment.  Gloss papers are not as forgiving as matte papers.  You may also
> have trouble with pizza wheels.  Make sure the paper is flat when you print
> it.
> 
> As you see from the data file unsprayed dmax ranged from 1.63 to 1.91 while
> sprayed dmax ranged from 1.79 to 2.18.  None of the papers got worse when
> sprayed with Krylon.  I have seen dmax's decrease with Gepe sprays in the
> past.  The krylon is cheap and easy to apply.  By far the easiest papers to
> spray are the Pearl/Luster/Silk papers that have a rough texture.  The
> sprays on these papers are in visible and do not change the surface.  In
> contrast the glossy papers take on a pebbled finish after spraying...thus
> its probably best to go with the textured papers.  The kodak papers are the
> hardiest to spray because they show imperfections in the spray
> application...showing gloss slicks and other sections that are more pebbled.
> 
> The prints varied in color warmth.  This is roughly captured by the b
> reading from the LAB measurements with my spectrocam.  I measured the 50%
> gray patch from the 21 step wedge. The higher the number the more warm the
> print.  The prints in the 5-6 range are pretty warm;however, the prints made
> with these papers using the MIS FS-N ink set and the piezo driver are
> beautifully neutral.
> 
> By way of cross reference, there are additional silk/luster/pearl papers
> that will probably  perform similarly.  For instance Brightcube's Eclipse
> line of gloss papers including their duet and semi-gloss papers have the
> same surface coating as the prophoto silk but offer heavier weight paper.
> My guess is that the Generations Luster paper would also be a good bet.
> 
> Hope this helps...I'd be glad to answer questions.  I will try to scan
> several sample gray wedges in the next several days and post so that people
> can see examples of the warming.
> 
> Robert
> 
> 
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