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Re: [Digital BW] Glossy Paper Screen

2002-04-21 by Steven Schaefer

The link did not work and I could not find it in the files section?

Robert Morrison wrote:
> 
> One other note.  The images on the best of these papers could be
> framed
> without spraying...but the surfaces are delicate...so you would need
> to
> mount/frame to prevent people from handling them.  A light coat of
> Krylon
> solves this problem...but if you want to preserve the true gross
> surface of
> papers like the Spectra Jet of the Brightcube Gloss or Epson Premium
> Matte
> you will need to not spray.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On 4/20/02 11:51 PM, "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote:
> 
> > Results from a recent gloss/semi-gloss paper screen that I have
> conducted
> > are posted in the files section:
> >
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/Paper%20Dat
> > a/
> >
> > The file is glossypaperscreen.pdf
> >
> > I tested 14 different glossy and pearl papers:
> >
> > Brightcube Gloss
> > Brightcube ProPhoto Silk
> > conetech Glossy
> > Epson Colorlife
> > Epson Photo Paper
> > Epson Premium Glossy
> > Epson Premium Luster
> > Hawk Mountain Sharpwing
> > Kodak Ultima Satin
> > Kodak Professional EI Premium Photographic Glossy Paper
> > Kodak Professional EI Premium Photographic Satin Paper
> > Lumijet Geniune Pearl
> > Red River Ultra Pro Satin
> > Tetenal Spectra Jet
> >
> > I used piezo inks with the piezo driver with the Epson Photo Paper
> profile.
> > I'm in the process of running the best of these papers with the MIS
> FS-N
> > inks using both the piezo driver and the epson driver.  So far
> results have
> > been very comparable with the different ink set.  Reciprocity may
> vary
> > slightly with the Epson driver, given that different quantities of
> inks may
> > be used for a given gray level.
> >
> > After printing gray wedges and a test image twice, I sprayed one
> image with
> > four quick coats of Krylon UV Resistant Spray (1305) and remeasured
> the dmax
> > and checked smear.
> >
> > GENERAL COMMENTS
> > Contrary to many comments on this list, there are many glossy papers
> that
> > work relatively well with Piezo and MIS FS inks.  I noticed very
> little
> > bronzing with the papers that I used and for the most part only the
> Kodak
> > papers had problems with reticulation using the piezo driver.  That
> said,
> > none of these papers passed a 24 hour smear test, until they were
> sprayed.
> > ALL the papers passed the test after they were sprayed.  It is also
> critical
> > to but your printer on the low printhead setting and carefully do
> print hear
> > alignment.  Gloss papers are not as forgiving as matte papers.  You
> may also
> > have trouble with pizza wheels.  Make sure the paper is flat when
> you print
> > it.
> >
> > As you see from the data file unsprayed dmax ranged from 1.63 to
> 1.91 while
> > sprayed dmax ranged from 1.79 to 2.18.  None of the papers got worse
> when
> > sprayed with Krylon.  I have seen dmax's decrease with Gepe sprays
> in the
> > past.  The krylon is cheap and easy to apply.  By far the easiest
> papers to
> > spray are the Pearl/Luster/Silk papers that have a rough texture.
> The
> > sprays on these papers are in visible and do not change the
> surface.  In
> > contrast the glossy papers take on a pebbled finish after
> spraying...thus
> > its probably best to go with the textured papers.  The kodak papers
> are the
> > hardiest to spray because they show imperfections in the spray
> > application...showing gloss slicks and other sections that are more
> pebbled.
> >
> > The prints varied in color warmth.  This is roughly captured by the
> b
> > reading from the LAB measurements with my spectrocam.  I measured
> the 50%
> > gray patch from the 21 step wedge. The higher the number the more
> warm the
> > print.  The prints in the 5-6 range are pretty warm;however, the
> prints made
> > with these papers using the MIS FS-N ink set and the piezo driver
> are
> > beautifully neutral.
> >
> > By way of cross reference, there are additional silk/luster/pearl
> papers
> > that will probably  perform similarly.  For instance Brightcube's
> Eclipse
> > line of gloss papers including their duet and semi-gloss papers have
> the
> > same surface coating as the prophoto silk but offer heavier weight
> paper.
> > My guess is that the Generations Luster paper would also be a good
> bet.
> >
> > Hope this helps...I'd be glad to answer questions.  I will try to
> scan
> > several sample gray wedges in the next several days and post so that
> people
> > can see examples of the warming.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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