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Re: Lyson Quad Black Impressions and questions

2002-04-24 by tomoc

Keith-

You might want to try the profiles available on the lyson site. I 
haven't noticed a large difference in using them and not using them, 
but they are free and might solve your problem.

I have been using Lyson small gamut (tried one set of quad carts and 
switched to small gamut for the flexibility) and I always convert to 
grayscale and back to RGB. I think there is a bit of posterization 
printing in GS. I'm using a PC with the gamma settings at default, so 
that may be a little different than MAC.

I've found that the Lyson inks print great on almost every glossy 
paper. I especially like the Pictorico High Gloss White Film and 
Epson Premium Gloss Photo.

Tom O'Connell

TomOC@...
www.thomasoconnell.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Keith Cooper 
<yahoogroups@n...> wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I¹ve recently been trying out Lyson Quad Black inks on an 1160. The 
neutral
> black set prints out very well on several papers (from photoshop6) 
using no
> colour adjustment in the Epson driver and a print destination space 
of
> Greyscale Gamma=1.8
> 
> Lyson¹s recommended approach is convert greyscale to RGB and then 
print  as
> above, using photo film setting to keep ink use low enough.
> 
> After trying several paper samples with a step wedge and some test 
pictures,
> I think the range of tones is excellent, with some warming under 
artificial
> (tungsten) light quite acceptable to myself.
> 
> Now some questionsŠ
> 
> Looking at a 95/96/97/98/100 wedge. Each division is clear, but 
there
> appears to be a larger step in density between 97% and 98% such 
that from
> normal viewing distances the wedge looks to be only two tones. This 
showed
> in one image as slight posterisation of a shadow area. I¹ve tried 
some
> adjustment curves, but that step is very difficult to smooth. This 
effect is
> present to some extent on all papers I tried
> 
> Has anyone else noticed this effect? If so what did you do?
> 
> In the Epson driver what actual differences do the different 
³standard²
> paper settings make to ink coverage? (I¹ve not been able to find 
any actual
> ­quantitative- info on this)
> 
> I¹ve looked at several of the techniques discussed for other ink 
sets (I
> have a postscript RIP -if- needed), but they are not for Lyson 
inks, and I
> do not want to use up lots of ink and paper, just to get to a point 
that
> someone else has already reached:  Also, I do not have a photometer 
to
> actually measure things.
> 
> Any experiences or pointers to Lyson Quad Black printing gratefully
> received..
> 
> Keith Cooper
> Leicester, England
> 
> ---------------------------------
> System setup (Mac)
> 
> Images scanned from B/W negs using Canon FS4000 @14bit greyscale
> Photoshop 6.0.1  B/W space grey Gamma2.2, Colour space AdobeRGB
> Monitor calibrated and set to Gamma=1.8
> Printer Epson 1160 via Epson driver or PowerRIP2000 V6 running on a 
Mac
> 9500/200 used as a file and print server
> Papers used
> Lyson Pro photo Glossy and Satin (I liked this paper), Epson photo, 
Lyson
> matt photo, Lyson Standard and Rough fine art
> (Lyson samples courtesy of Graphicstar in the UK
> http://www.graphicstar.co.uk ­not affiliated in any way)
> ---------------------------------

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