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Epson 2100 UK=Epson 2200-US =Colorio PM 4000PX-Japan

2002-04-25 by iwasnvrhere

Ouch that burns. I don't know if Martin is going to reply to this 
but I will. Before you burst into righteous indignation (or is it too 
late for that) you might want to find out a little more info. The 
lightfastness they are giving out is conspicuously lacking test 
conditions. I will bet that 45 to 75 years is going to be indoor 
light and probably behind glass. DEMAND test conditions for any 
lightfastness or archivability claims. I can make a print last for 
50,000 years with zero fade-stored in vacuum and complete darkness 
but who cares.
 Did you notice that the lightfastness numbers dropped significantly 
from the 2000P inks? Wonder why? My sources indicate something I'll 
pose as a question. How do you get pigmented inks to look really 
bright and with a little switch of black inks print on matte or gloss 
but in the process lose a huge chunk of lightfastness? ....Give 
up? ......Come on don't die out on me here...OK I'll tell you- you 
make a dye/pigment hybrid ink. Excuse some of us for wanting a 
solution that's more that smoke and mirrors. 

The printer and software are a quantum leap in the right direction 
and most nondiscerning users will probably be happy with it but don't 
get histerical if people who have professions and reputations to 
uphold don't jump on the bandwagon just yet. It's all just the 
typical pre-release hype anyway.

Jeff


In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., CDTobie@a... wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 4/25/02 2:47:06 AM, mwesley250@e... writes:
> 
> >Everything sounds great except for that "45 to 75 years" print 
life.
> 
> Epson will happily leave you and the rest of the small group with 
higher life 
> expectations that this on your own, while they make money with the 
general 
> market. Considering the error range in estimages above 45 years, 
I'm not sure 
> that your high ideals are all that meaningful.
> 
> C. David Tobie
> Design Cooperative
> CDTobie@d...

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