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Re: [Digital BW] The continuing saga of my 1280/CIS/VM problems - please help!

2002-04-26 by ljkorte

Hi Charles,

I have the very same setup as you do. I'm using a Mac with the 
1280 and nomorecarts, VM inks.

When printing with Paul's MW curve, I also had the identical 
stepwedge issue with the gray "inversion". The problem was 
less noticed with the neutral and cool curve.

After many test wedge prints and adjustments to the RGB curve 
channel, I lessened the flatness somewhat. Never to the level I 
wanted but close.

Now, I've just tried Tyler's new curves (on a Mac) and side by 
side prints (old curves and Tyler's plat or crv 09) show that the 
flat spot is gone. They look better and print beautifully. And I'm 
using them on a Mac.

Anyway, not a real solution for you here, I guess but it is 
interesting that two identical setups produce the very same 
wedge look.

Jeff Korte


> 
>   Hi Everyone -
> 
>   My problem is that with every curve set I get a weird inversion 
in my
>   stepwedge around the 70% point, this causes images to 
have a solarized
>   look, as 70% grey prints _darker_ than 85%, so there's a 
weird light
>   point in what should be shadow areas. (My config - 1280, 
nomorecarts
>   CIS, MIS VM ink in 4 oz bottles, mac OSX using photoshop7 
(but have
>   checked with os9 and PS6, same results)) 
> 
>   So far I've tried all the Roark and Boley curves with minimal 
success,
>   and I'm getting really frustrated. Have spoken with Bob at MIS 
who
>   swears it isn't an ink problem (though he's investigating right 
now)
>   but I'm also pretty sure it isn't a printer or workflow problem 
since
>   I was getting great prints before using VM carts. Purge 
patterns look
>   pretty much normal, I am _certain_ that I have the ink 
positions
>   correct, certain that I am printing on the right side of the paper,
>   and certain that I am using the same settings that gave me 
good
>   results with MIS VM carts before switching to CIS. I'm pretty 
sure
>   that I can rule out software issues, as my system hasn't 
changed since
>   I was printing with carts.
> 
>   There was a message from a guy named Kevin in response 
to my first
>   plea saying that he was having similar problems with an MIS 
CFS system
>   and the VM ink - I'm guessing that since he bought the ink 
around the
>   same time I did, and since he's using a different delivery 
system,
>   maybe it really _is_ the ink. That would sure make life easier 
if it
>   were true. Beyond that - does anyone have any thoughts of 
what might
>   be going on?
> 
> 
>   --Charley
> 
>   cbandes@m...
> 
> 
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