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Re: [Digital BW] The continuing saga of my 1280/CIS/VM problems - please help!

2002-04-26 by tboleyyh

Charles, I'm afraid I'm not spending much time on the list any more, but since your problems are using a workflow I've been 
involved with I've watched your posts.
One comment. If truly, nothing at all has changed but the ink batch, and going from carts to CIS, I'd say the new problem has 
to do with one of those two elements. Nothing else makes sense, and that should narrow your troubleshooting 
considerably.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "charles_bandes" <byronbulb@y...> wrote:
> That's very interesting Jeff, thank you.
> 
> My prints from Tyler's plat and crv9 are almost good - but the
> "inversion" area around 80-60% is still present, just very very
> flattened, so areas in those midtones don't "solarize" but they just
> get sort of muddy and flat, without the separation that I should be
> seeing. It's certainly a step up from the look I was getting from
> Paul's curves, but still far from acceptable, and not what I invested
> in this system for. 
> 
> But if you, Kevin, and I are all having similar results it starts to
> make me wonder if something really is wrong with the inks.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "ljkorte" <jeffkorte@m...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Charles,
> > 
> > I have the very same setup as you do. I'm using a Mac with the 
> > 1280 and nomorecarts, VM inks.
> > 
> > When printing with Paul's MW curve, I also had the identical 
> > stepwedge issue with the gray "inversion". The problem was 
> > less noticed with the neutral and cool curve.
> > 
> > After many test wedge prints and adjustments to the RGB curve 
> > channel, I lessened the flatness somewhat. Never to the level I 
> > wanted but close.
> > 
> > Now, I've just tried Tyler's new curves (on a Mac) and side by 
> > side prints (old curves and Tyler's plat or crv 09) show that the 
> > flat spot is gone. They look better and print beautifully. And I'm 
> > using them on a Mac.
> > 
> > Anyway, not a real solution for you here, I guess but it is 
> > interesting that two identical setups produce the very same 
> > wedge look.
> > 
> > Jeff Korte

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