Digital BW, The Print

At 3:30 PM +0000 4/28/02, garrysarre wrote:
>[snip] Channel mixer is also useless to me as I start with a B&W 
>neg. What else is there? I seem to have no response when I put up a 
>post. [snip]

If I didn't respond to Garry's previous post(s), I think he must not 
be using the only sepia solution I know anything about, MIS's new VM 
Sepia-Neutral inkset to Paul Roark's specs.

In any case, Sepia-Neutral seems to me to work very well in an 1160 
starting with either B & W or RGB.

I would not, however, say that the prints are a "rich golden sepia" 
with any one of the four curves you can download on InkSupply.com. 
But they might be if the curves are adjusted or the yellow slider, 
which I also haven't tried, is used.

Sam


>Sepia bloody sepia
>
>Someone tell me if they have a better idea and what the hell I am
>doing.
>
>I've been fiddle farting around with this sepia thing for months. My
>heart yearns for the tuth. My intention has been to try a get it
>close on a desktop before purchasing larger. I am thoroughly spoilt
>as I print B&W Neg onto colour RC Paper and filtrate to get a rich
>goldern sepia and it gives me the total poops trying to get close to
>that with inkjet.
>
>I start with a black & white neg scan.
>
>A "not bad" method I have tried is to start with a desaturated RGB
>image off the B&W neg and adjust colour - shadows, midtones &
>highlights equally. I will get horrible crossover before I even
>start if you just try mids.
>
>My sepi is very rich, so my settings were 20y 15r each. Try
>proportionally less if you want weaker. This leads to another
>problem. If I have the "Preserve Luminosity" checked, the levels
>change quite drastically, sometimes actually chopping off the shadow
>end of the histogram, if I leave it unchecked it just does weird
>things. In any case, I figured that I  must adjust the histogram at
>the very end of the process and make sure it is intact. If it isn't
>then I try this -
>
>I found that if I converted to CMYK and then did the same colour
>adjustment, my histogram was left fairly intact and then just
>switched back down to RGB again for final output. My next step is
>the MIS sepia neautal inks with a guess at which curves to use. Paul
>suggests 1280 for my 890 but they're not fully refined as yet.
>
>I may be doing this all wrong but when I have tried duotones, the
>histogram is devistated. Channel mixer is also useless to me as I
>start with a B&W neg. What else is there? I seem to have no response
>when I put up a post.
>
>This sepia bizzo seems to be the hardest thing to get to grips with.
>
>
>Garry Sarre
>
>www.sarre.com.au