Digital BW, The Print

Nij,

am I misslead - don't you think it's the tubes?

Is that one for certain "absorbtion and permationresistent" as it 
must.

The PDF sais it has waterabsorbion - that indicates that it's not
permationrsitant - nothing about airabsorbtion - and not that it's 
made of "tetrafluoroethelen" - I have a feeling this is a cheap one!
The headline also states it's a "siliconebased" - that's the worst 
ones as I learnt from the friend "hospital engineer/designer"!
Avoid those Silicone ABSORBS water etc - You know that as well as I 
do,
when placing siliconbased "leakstopers" it hardens by the water in 
the air! Voila!!!

Remember our tubes shall last for at least a year or more and DO it's 
thing also protecting the ink - things used for temporary pumsetups 
in hospitals are often switched out for many a reason - then the 
requiremensts I stated earlier are not fullfilled!
 
But if that's the one - thanks - now I know that I have to look 
elseware. That information was very important for me. I mean it Nij - 
thanks again! Now I don't have to spend time on what I have.

"What's wrong" - I have already described to You Nij!

There is a reason - I'll/We'll find it!
I think this is at least one of the answers!

Nij - You helped me!

Regards
Bo Wrangborg
Sweden


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Nij" <nigel@m...> wrote:
> Bo,
> 
> What's wrong with what you probably have already? Tygon vacuum 
tubing
> R-3603???
> 
> http://www.tygon.com/new/europe/english/en_europe_index.html
> 
> Nij
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sm7bxd [mailto:sm7bxd@y...]
> > Sent: 15 May 2002 01:04
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: RED ALERT - Attension - MIS Black!
> >
> >
> > Nij,
> >
> > no problems by that - I buy another 1290 - I can afford 
that./smile/
> > Cpmpared to my "Hassle-Blades" Minolta Multi pro etc etc it's a 
minor
> > cost.
> > It's expensive and it's fun - LET's have fun!
> >
> > I bought the tubes from MIS - they are cheap as other real stuff
> > costs - I have also learnt that every system like this are using 
this
> > tubeset - none of them have the more expensive ones.
> >
> > For the wentholes - I have a simple but irriytating solution I 
have
> > made plastic cones (Not Cones plastic /smile/) that I place in 
this
> > holes when not in use - but they are not "automatic" - I can 
forget
> > them.
> > Erlier I used a plastic bag with a damp piece of cloth to get 100%
> > rel humidity taped it - and it works as well but look rediculous 
when
> > custumers came for looking at my gear....aren't we some sort of
> > crazy...but we photographers are as well some sort 
of "artists" ...
> > and dont like that - ahhh plastic bags.hmm....
> >
> > Have just made an investigation by friends (hospital engineer and
> > designer for apperatures, also been at
> > http://nalgenelab.nalgenunc.com/products/catalog/category.asp?
> > catId=173
> >
> > The Nalgene place to have a look - it look promising.
> >
> > Words to use here : The common tubes are permeable letting fluid 
out
> > and avaporate AND absorbtic letting air in (It's a two way
> > interference here) (I don't know air may corrogate some chemicals 
and
> > gibving them other colors, changing the chemical formulas etc etc.
> >
> >
> > What I need now for RR (Rolls Roys) is what I have learnt are 
tubes
> > made of "Tetrafluoroethelene" that is both absorbtion and
> > permationrestistent. I now Nalgen have them - but are expensive - 
but
> > I dont care!
> > However, are they elastic enought to give it an easy go or do I 
have
> > to heat them to have the right bend and mobility?
> >
> > They also do have selflocking connections - that could make it 
easy to
> > maintenace the tubes now and then!
> >
> > It is to remember that the tubes has a far greater relative area 
to
> > the air than the bottles - so for me it's obvious (also by my
> > incedent) that this is of great importance to evaluate the 
systems.
> > Ok this was the first indikation with MIS "double black" that has 
a
> > lot of carbonparticles in it - however in the long term every 
tube is
> > affected and build up - to stiff grease like things - that can't 
be
> > good at all. Investigated the other tubes as well - and they also
> > have grease - but not that much!
> >
> > So when printing - are You happy wityh the blacks - if not I know
> > where it's hidden./call me and I'll tell You - smile/
> >
> > Du Pont have alo such tubes - but not on the web! And I'm certain
> > that industri fellows can help me to further deliverants!
> >
> > I don't care if the tubes are single - it's easy to connect them 
with
> > some sort of silicone every 5 cm or so or why not tape them with
> > different colors - making it look like cobras /smile/ - have a
> > suggestion for that one?
> >
> > The hunt goes on!
> >
> > Help appreciated! For sure!
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ninj!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Bo Wrangborg
> > Made in Sweden
> >