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Re: [Digital BW] Lyson Small Gamut and Metamerism

2002-05-15 by Robert Morrison

Interesting observation.  I've always assumed that the Hahnemuhle papers did
so well with the pigmented inks because of the presence of dye in them.  If
you switch to a 100% pigment set (like the MIS Double Density Black from the
MIS Perpetual Set), now Museo and Eclipse Satine are the dmax winners and
the Hahnemuhle papers come in a distant second...this is exact opposite of
the performance with Cone or MIS FS or VM inks.

I'd be really interested to know what happens with metamerism with the SG
set with either Museo and Eclipse...do you have any?  How are you
profiling/using the SG's...do you apply curves or is there a driver that
handles them?  

Robert

On 5/15/02 12:12 PM, "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...>
wrote:

> In past posts I had said that in my own experience I found no evidence
> of strong metamerism in the Lyson SG inkset, while others claimed to
> have found the same..
> 
> Well, as Dave Tobie indicated, paper choice is key..
> 
> On Torchon I get STRONG metamerism with the SGs..  In fact if I go from
> tungsten to daylight comparing a sepia-toned SG to a warm MIS VM print:
> in tungsten, the SG is the reddish print and the MIS VM greenish/olive
> in comparison, in daylight the MIS is still greenish, but the SG goes so
> green it now looks more olive than the VM print..
> 
> So, it looks like the metamerism is of the SGs is strongest on cast
> coated papers, while on microporous and more traditional poly coated
> papers, as well as some others the SGs perform beautifully... I'm
> guessing the dyes do not properly penetrate the clay cast...
> 
> What this means in practice is that the SGs perform as a great
> complement to the MIS pigment inks and vice versa...  The papers one set
> performs poorly on are the strong suit of the other..
> 
> NOW I am REALY glad I have both sets running!
> 
> 

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