Bob, Perhaps. Frankly, I'd rather pay a higher honest printer cost up front, particularly on the Pro models. Just like I don't want "cheap" computers at the cost of $100 per month software licensing fees. Let's see...offer a cheap printer to get the customer "hooked" on outrageously expensive ink. Isn't that a tactic employed in the drug trade? I would expect a wide-format printer to have at least a 5 year service life. Figuring $5k for a 7500 vs $3k for a 7600 and $112 per ink switch, that means I can only make that switch less than 4 times per year to break even. Half that, if you compare the 7000 instead. The alternatives are to have fewer paper choices, or to live with less than the best results on matte and watercolor paper. Having paper choice is one big advantage of using the Epson ink in the first place. As I said, I'm hopeful that the 2200 won't gouge too much. If not, I'll probably go that route. I'd rather be able to use all papers and inks than to print the occasional large print. Every member on this list has "had it both ways" for quite some time. We have bought "cheap" printers and either put 3rd party color or quadtone inks into them. We have been subsidized by the poor schmucks like my friend who has fed his 2000P ink carts like they are popcorn. I don't suppose you have bought an equivalent amount of Epson ink for all the B&W inks you have put through yours, have you? Lloyd -----Original Message----- From: Bob Frost [mailto:bobfrost@...] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:33 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] OEM Ink Pricing & Tactics Invetigated by EU Anti-Trust Commissioner Loyd, Hang on a minute. If the EU does stop printer manufacturers trying to make their customers use their ink, all that will happen is that the prices of printers will double or triple. They are not going to continue selling printers for little or no profit, if they don't get the ink sales. You can't have it both ways! Bob Frost. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd O'Daniel" <lodaniel@...> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] OEM Ink Pricing & Tactics Invetigated by EU Anti-Trust Commissioner This is good news. Perhaps it will discourage Epson from extending this sculduggery to the large-format printers, and curtail it with the small ones. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=226014.2032696.3508022.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705 019182:HM/A=1000239/R=0/*http://ads.x10.com/?bHlhaG9vaG0xLmRhd=102214638 1%3eM=226014.2032696.3508022.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705019182:HM/A=10002 39/R=1> <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=226014.2032696.3508022.1829184/D=egrou pmail/S=1705019182:HM/A=1000239/rand=511812825> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint Please follow these basic guidelines: - Include your full name with your message. - Include the address of your website, if you have one. - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." - Complete your Yahoo profile. - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] OEM Ink Pricing & Tactics Investigated by EU Anti-Trust Commissioner
2002-05-23 by Lloyd O'Daniel
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