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Re: [Digital BW] PiezoTone with Epson Driver Dmax

2002-06-11 by Todd Flashner

Hi Jerry

Yeah I was trying to say that Gen inks WERE compatible with Piezo inks (I
was a user of Paul's original Piezo/Gen VT formula too) but me English no
good. ;-)

I didn't know the Gen 5 inks were not compatible though! Have you tried them
BTW? What are you using for color work these days, the Epson 1280 dyes?

Todd

> Todd, the old piezo inks and Generations inks are compatible, as are the
> MIS inks. I used to mix them a couple years back when I first started
> looking for cold tones. It's the Generations FIVE inks that aren't compatible.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> Todd Flashner wrote:
>> 
>>> I have some full-inkset PiezoTone test strips also.  However, I was most
>>> eager to see if Jon had found a new and superior black ink or whether the
>>> new K is just Generations Enhanced black.  We might be able to tell that by
>>> Friday.
>> 
>> I asked Jon on the piezo list if the Piezotones were pure pigments or
>> contained dyes, and whether they would outlast the original Piezo inks in an
>> absolute sense (fading vs warming) but got no reply. Do any of you beta
>> users know anything about the makeup of these inks?
>> 
>> I'd doubt it's Gen enhanced purely because Jon implies Piezotones are
>> chemically incompatible with the old inks while we know Gen inks are not.
>> Though, now that I think about it, he really just recommended flushing the
>> lines and changing carts, but that could surely be for reasons of
>> consistency rather than compatibility...
>> 
>> Well, I certainly hope it's an advancement, new inks have been hitting the
>> market. OTOH, we do seem to see that most brands are ultimately quite common
>> to each other. Speaking of which, could they possibly be based on the Epson
>> Ultrachrome K?
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
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