Sam A. McCandless wrote: >My own case of the slows is so advanced that I try never to complain >about anyone else. > As do I.. Hell, I have publications waiting for product reviews from me that are 8 weeks late. But, he promised the new results two years ago Sam. With "soon" prominently displayed on the page back then.. What I am lobbying for is that he at least tell us if the results will again be published or NOT. If he has changed his contractual agreements since the orange-shift debacle that is understandable, but don't tell us that something is coming "soon" and then have NOTHING new after two years. Heck, at this point, I would bet dollars to donuts that files are still linkable to or ftp-able from his site and that the index page is meant to discourage the curious. I''d bet EPSON, Lyson, et al can get the files from his site.. I'm just saying he should probably no longer represent his site or reports as consumer-oriented or consumer-driven data. If the game has changed that much, they would be product development data - plain and simple. > But I do find it frustrating that he himself >apparently hasn't provided access to his previously published >reports, which I think are very useful even now. > > > > Agreed 100% Nice to see we DO agree once in awhile.. I'm guessing that they are no longer available because Wilhelm had to come up with new methodologies etc. Realistically, when the orange-shift data hit, EPSON could have sued him for not having a sufficiently scientific and rigorous methodology to have found the problem (as regards cyan dyes the "Gulf Coast" fade problem had been publicly reported on in the dye industry since 1955 - and Henry was representing his reports as the industry's gold-standard, yet inadvertently he missed the cyan dye problem). EPSON had campaigned that the printers involved were worthy of professional use and that the prints would last as long as silver prints. If his methodologies were flawed and IF people relied upon them AFTER Henry knew so, he would expose himself to liability from both manufacturers and consumers.. Unfortunately, he probably had no REAL choice but to pull the old reports. Beyond that, he may well have had to make concessions to retain contracts after that debacle. One concession might well have been to agree to NOT publish data until the manufacturers had products on sale that addressed the flaws that Wilhelm's testing might arguably have been expected to disclose. These companies based product development on those reports. They believed they were rigorous, comprehensive, and representative.. It turned out that was not 100% true.. My basic question is simply whether or not Henry is going to again publish easily comparable data based upon a repeatable established baseline methodology. Until that is answered , conjecture about alternative testing etc., is IMHO going to remain unfocussed and nebulous. Nuff said. Keith [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Print Life was Epson 2200,1280 and quad tone options -- Leave WILHELM out of this
2002-07-05 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
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