My "real" b/w inkjet experience began some months back when I traded my Epson Photo 1200 for someone else's Epson 1160 to get "serious" (more or less, anyway) about printing (while buying a refurb Epson Photo 1270 from the Epson Store to take over the color work), and the first quadtone ink set I bought was from Luminos, which, I was tipped off about by someone later on, was simply rebadged (and seriously marked-up) Lyson ink. My experience with Lyson Quad Black Neutral has mostly been good; except for two clogging episodes (I was perhaps a bit overzealous in not using a cleaning cart set after receiving the 1160), I've been getting quite good results, mostly on EAM (using both Luminos' curves and Lyson's "just print it straight RGB and Wing It" instructions - the former seems a bit more refined), and okay results on Lumijet Gallery Gloss, save for the fact that I can no longer stand the meager weight of most Lumijet paper (EAM spoiled me). I haven't experienced the metamerism issues others have cited Lyson's QB Neutral for (which I've seen as a result of setting up an Epson 2000P with Epson inks for a client). The only (relatively minor) issues surround scanning - I shoot mostly Ilford XP2 Super in 35mm, and scan with a Minolta QuickScan 35 Plus film scanner via VueScan; Sometimes I get dazzling results in my prints (up to 11x17" as of now...working on 13x19"), and sometimes I miss my personal "mark". As I may have mentioned before here, by b/w aesthetics are fairly straightforward: absolutely no "textured" paper, and tones as reasonably close to "neutral" as possible - my b/w sensibility is for the present, not some fanciful concept of the past, and my foray into digital printing is much less about "escaping" the traditional darkroom as it is surmounting the relative diffiuclty - in my case, anyway - of setting one up at this time. I happen to like the conventional darkroom, and try to work in one whenever I can, but I decided a while back that the lack of my own facilities wouldn't stop me from producing quality prints. I think that what has been carved out by most everyone participating on this list is something vibrantly in-progress; nothing is truly nailed down yet, but then again that fact adds vibrancy to our endeavors. I'm simply trying to work on what makes sense to me in terms of presenting my work to others for their approval or rejection; Discovering this group has helped a good deal in sussing out certain things for me, yet reinforced the fact that there is more than one way to get to a desired result via this relatively new medium. I think I've found a formula that works *for me*, but it's great to listen - and occasionally debate - with others who find something else. - Barrett
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Re: Lyson vs. piezo inks
2002-07-09 by amateriat
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