Digital BW, The Print

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photo Rag longevity versus EHM with Epson dye
inks?


> Nope, I absolutely hate  the rc look. Tacky Tacky Tacky!!! Cheap!
> Commercial! Ugh!
>
> (In my humble opinion, of course.).

Jerry,

That's about what I thought you would say. <G>
>
> Brightcube says Eclipse satine is good with dyes or pigments. That and
> the Photo Matte are what I use most often. Photo Rag is indeed
> wonderful, but too expensive for me.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

Martin
>
>
> Martin Wesley wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Photo Rag longevity versus EHM with Epson dye
> > inks?
> >
> > > Martin, which epson papers would be good for the 1280 dye inks (26
year
> > > life)? Heavyweight matte isn't nearly heavy enough, and it is too
ivory
> > > colored to be useful.
> > >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > I really don't know on that one. I would probably stick to Epson's
> > recommendations since it is their ink. I have been using Epson's
ColorLife
> > paper for the family snapshots but I don't know if you would like the RC
> > pearl type finish. Maybe someone on the Archical Color group has some
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Martin Wesley
> >
> > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Martin Wesley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mitch,
> > > >
> > > > For the dye inks I would stick to the Epson papers. It has long been
> > > > understood that the chemicals used to buffer archival papers and mat
> > board
> > > > would damage color dye materials such as dye transfer prints or
textiles
> > > > dyed with vegetable dyes.
> > > >
> > > > The Hahnemuhle papers appear to be fully buffered to a pH of 8.0+
and
> > this
> > > > buffering, while extremely good for the life of the paper, may be
> > harmful to
> > > > the life of the color dye image.
> > > >
> > > > While the carbon pigment inks in theory are immune to the effects of
the
> > > > buffering agents, I wonder if that is the reason prints on H. papers
> > warm
> > > > more than on EAM.
> > > >
> > > > There is also the nature and pH of the coatings used on inkjet
papers
> > and
> > > > how they interact with the inks. All of this is proprietary
information
> > and
> > > > we really don't know what will happen over the long haul.
> > > >
> > > > Martin Wesley
> > > >
> > > > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mitch Alland" <malland@...>
> > > > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:32 PM
> > > > Subject: [Digital BW] Photo Rag longevity versus EHM with Epson dye
> > inks?
> > > >
> > > > > [Although this question concerns color inks, I am posting it here
as I
> > had
> > > > no response on the Epson printer color forum.]
> > > > >
> > > > > In the Sep 28, 2001 "newsletter" on www.inkjetart.com there was a
> > report
> > > > based on Epson information that the life of Epson 1280 (dye) inks on
> > Epson
> > > > Heavyweight Matte was much longer (25 years) than on Epson Archival
> > Matte
> > > > (10 years), as the latter works better with pigment inks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know what is the situation with Epson 1280 dye inks
with
> > > > Hahnemuehle Photo Rag: is the lonegevity shorter than with Epson
> > Heavyweight
> > > > Matte, along the lines of  Epson Archival Matte?
> > > > >
> > > > > --Mitch/Bangkok
> > > > >
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