No, but I think it would help if we know who is getting discounts etc... J ----- Original Message ----- From: "flyfishingusa2002" <tflyfish@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] will all the beta testers please stand up?? > You must be special, when I called IJM about clogging in one of my > 1160's I was given no help at all, no offer to replace inks, just > a "Sorry, we can't find any trace of your purchase. > I use MIS inks on my other printers and will stay with them since > their customer service is excellent and their prices excellent as > well. > Are the Beta testors likely to spoil their privilaged postion by not > saying good things about their IJM inks? > > Barry > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas" > <julianthomas@t...> wrote: > > > Julian, > > > > > > Can you tell us who and what company? It would be nice to know > who to > > beware > > > of. > > I was told in confidence - but the company is well-known. The > person in > > question however, wanted to keep some semblance of an 'ethical' > stance so > > that s/he would be able to offer an honest critique. > > > > I'm not trying to be critical, but having hung out on lists for a > while and > > spent a fortune on inks/papers I'm aware of the power of the > internet for > > misinformation. I know now for instance that when Jerry says a > print is cool > > or neutral, for me it is blue. I know this because I've seen his > prints. I > > know that certain people will praise IJM regardless, whilst others > will be > > critical. Others will sing the praises of MIS in a similar > fashion. I lost a > > lot of faith over the infamous greenies/clogs issue. Whilst in > person IJM > > was very supportive and replaced inks and a cis (i had to bear the > cost of > > new heads though), the public internet posts were 'no problem etc > etc' and > > this was matched by a host of folk wading in. It wasn't until this > list > > started that we started seeing the scale of the problem. Newbies > often post > > here saying 'what is the best...' and the answers vary widely. > Robert, for > > instance has said that Hahnemuhle is of a consistent low quality - > whilst in > > my tests PR is simply the best. All in all there is enough > confusion around > > and 'differences of aesthetic vision' without hidden commercial > interests as > > well. > > > > Julian > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] will all the beta testers please stand up??
2002-07-17 by Julian Thomas
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