Digital BW, The Print

Richard,

I have a couple of samples of 7600 output. Two images, each printed on
Ilford Satin and Oce Fine Art. All of them are okay but exhibit split toning
common to "neutral" B&W prints made with color ink sets. They also exhibit
metamerism that is less than 2000P output I have seen but is much worse than
any of the pigment grayscale ink sets.

I don't want to judge an ink set and printer on this one example but I would
have to see something a lot better to substitute this level of quality for
any of the MIS or Piezo inks and workflows. It may be possible to overcome
the defects I see with better use of the software or different paper
choices.

It is also interesting to note that we have reported Dmax values of 1.82 to
1.94 for the PiezoTone inks on fine art paper compared to the 1.69 reported
with the Matte Black UltraChrome inks.

For me personally a life of 100 years is not acceptable for a B&W print,
either.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Sintchak" <richard@...>
To: "culturalvisions" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 11:46 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7
ink sets)


> Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 7:32:06 AM, culturalvisions wrote:
>
> c> Thought people would be interested in seeing this link
>
> c> http://www.inkjetart.com/pro/7600_9600/black_mode.html
>
> c> Frank
> c> http://www.culturalvisions.com
>
> Thanks for the link Frank. Good stuff to know.
>
> Each time I see comments on the metamerism of the new Epson printers
> the answers are mostly non-commital and vague.  Mostly saying "really
> good!" but never specific enough to address my concerns for this.
>
> This linked discussion above is a good example:
>
> ".....the Light Black ink helps to reduce metamerism...".
>
> Just "helps to reduce". For me I'm holding off on getting this printer
> until I hear from more than a few people, definitively, about the
> metamerism.  Or I can see for myself.
>
> I know these printers are not widely available yet but I believe
> there's a few on this list who have had the opportunity to use these
> printers, or at least view some of the images made. Is it still too
> early to tell if the metamerism is "acceptable", "gone", "too
> much", or what?
>
> Best regards,
>  Richard
>
> mailto:richard@...
>
>
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