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Re: [Digital BW] Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)

2002-07-25 by Simon Lamb

Would it be possible to expand on the metamerism that you are seeing - the conditions, how it exhibits itself etc?  The metamerism of the 2000 was quite pronounced and you state that the 2200 is far less, but then go on to say it is quite pronounced.

I have a 2200 on order as I made the assumption that the metamerism issue would have been resolved or at least greatly reduced.  Any feedback on the degree to which this issue still remains with the 2200 would help me to decide whether to postpone my purchase until more feedback is available.

Thanks.

Simon
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: grdglass@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:07 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: New Epsons: metamerism (was: Black ink info on Epson 7 ink sets)


  I have a b+w print from the 2200.  It was printed with Ultrachrome inks, 
  Matte Black, on Epson Enhanced Matte.  Although far less than the 2000, 
  metamerism is quite pronounced.  The 2200 has Gray Balancer software which 
  the 7600 and 9600 do not, so output from the 2200 should be the best.  I am 
  interested in the 7600 and if I had to make a decision based on that one 
  sample, I would not buy the printer.  However, did the sample suffer from 
  pilot error or is that the best there is with this group of Epsons?  I plan 
  to wait until there is more feedback.

  A while back, for example, I got a color sample of the PDI target from the 
  7600.  It was muddy. Since then, I have seen gorgeous color output from the 
  7600.

  I also hear that custom profiles improve these printers but I don't think a 
  profile can eliminate metamerism which is a function of the inks used.

  Helene  

  << Thanks for the link Frank. Good stuff to know.

  Each time I see comments on the metamerism of the new Epson printers
  the answers are mostly non-commital and vague.  Mostly saying "really
  good!" but never specific enough to address my concerns for this.

  This linked discussion above is a good example:

  ".....the Light Black ink helps to reduce metamerism...".

  Just "helps to reduce". For me I'm holding off on getting this printer
  until I hear from more than a few people, definitively, about the
  metamerism.  Or I can see for myself.

  I know these printers are not widely available yet but I believe
  there's a few on this list who have had the opportunity to use these
  printers, or at least view some of the images made. Is it still too
  early to tell if the metamerism is "acceptable", "gone", "too
  much", or what? >>



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