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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 3000

2002-07-26 by Shire,Stanley

A "side" comment here. Our 3000 (with vm quads) has begun banding (to
various degrees). I've tried the Epson driver, the Imageprint driver
(better than the Epson, but still bands), realigned the heads very
carefully with HWM, ran cleaning cycles (they're ok.) So it's off to the
shop to see what they can do. They think perhaps a new head as a last
resort. I'm pretty tight with the service guys and they do tell me
"secret Epson" stuff so I'll report back when the printer returns. Just
thought the final result may be helpful to others on the list with
3000s.
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
 
215 751-8320
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-----Original Message-----
From: grdglass@... [mailto:grdglass@...] 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:13 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 3000
 
Paul,

Thank you for the very detailed and thorough reply.  I think I would
like to 
try a 3000 with MIS VM-Sepia and the new PiezoTone Selenium.  Do you
think 
it's practical to periodically switch back-and-forth between cartridges 
filled with those two ink sets?  Plugging one set up and switching to
the 
other, and then back again?

You wrote, "with a properly partitioned quad workflow," referring to 
MIS/Epson, I assume, did you mean by the word "partition" your curves or

something more?

Referring to Piezo, you wrote that your 3000 bands with the old Piezo
driver, 
but not with the newer drivers at 1440.  What version number gives you
the 
very smooth output?

Helene



> Message: 8
>    Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:42:35 -0700
>    From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...>
> Subject: RE: Epson 3000
> 
> Helene,
> 
> I use a 3000 with a PC and usually have MIS VM-Sepia ink in it.  I
think
> it's an excellent machine and a great bargain.
> 
> The 3000 has a reputation for large dots.  It is true that the color
prints
> are not, in my view, photo quality.  However, with a properly
partitioned
> quad workflow, the highlights are essentially dot free (to my eyes).
I
> recently took delivery of a 1290 (loaner for the purpose of writing
curves)
> and printed some black-ink-only B&Ws at 2880 to see how it would do.
It 
> has
> clear dots; the 3000 partitioned quad is smoother.  I might not want
to do
> postcard-size prints with the 3000, but for my 16x20 prints, it's
close to
> perfect.  The medium format film grain is my limiting factor.
> 
> The 3000 also has a reputation for paper-feed problems.  I use Epson
> Archival Matte that I slice from a 24" roll.  After I cut 17" off the
roll
> and let it "relax" between a couple of damp blotter papers for a
couple of
> minutes to get the curl out, I pre-feed the paper into the front of
the 
> 3000
> with the "Load/Eject" button (without any wait for it to dry).  I get
> perfect feed every time.
> 
> The old Piezo list archives are full of stories about 3000s that band.
The
> one I have does band slightly with the old Piezo software, but with
the
> newer drivers at 1440, it is very smooth. (However, the Piezo driver
at 
> that
> resolution is very slow.)
> 
> I prefer the Epson driver even for MIS FS inks, and there is no
banding 
> with
> that driver.
> 
> Also, the black density of the 3000 & Epson driver, with the MIS VM/FS

> black
> ink, is about 1.68 on EAM -- considerably deeper than the Piezo driver
and
> deeper than the 7000 with the Epson driver.  In fact, the 1280 with
the new
> PiezoTone black and the Piezo driver delivers only 1.71.  Not a
significant
> difference, in my view.
> 
> I think the 3000 has been in production for longer than any other
Epson
> printer for a reason.  It's a work horse that delivers -- even if it
is an
> old clunker in many respects.



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