Editor P.O.V. Image Service wrote: > Feynmann was only doing what he always did so well - teach with a flare for the dramatic. The shattering of the frozen O ring was the type of thing he did so well to drive home physics to his students. That flare is what made him not only the greatest modern day physicists but also the greatest teacher of physics. Truman > > Agreed 100%! > > I added Challenger knowing that story quite well.. > > The story you so nicely told for me was EXACTLY why Challenegr was > included on the list.. Feynmann's guts and moxie on that panel serve as > a sign of how far one has to go to get a blue ribbon panel to act like a > truly independent advisory group instead of a sycophantic organization > of rubber stamping toadies.. > > A blue ribbon panel can work, but you have to have someone brave, > independent, and knowledgeable acknowledged as a group/panel leader > (unofficially - int need not be the chairperson) to make sure it does > more than trumpet the current party line.. > > I don't think anyone with a vested interest in a political outcome to > the inquiry was likely to do what Feynmann did.. Similarly, when people > on any panel have a vested interest in certain outcomes (maintiaining a > market for profiles, or avoiding responsibility for a bad engineering > choice) don't expect them to leave those vested interests at the door to > the hearing room.. > > Does anyone know if there was a single expert on EPSON's panel who had > publicly criticized earlier EPSON marketing choices? If not, don't > expect true objectivity.. Instead, expect groupthink.. > > Don't misinterpret me either.. I'm saying you need honest critics, not > that the panel needs to be even mostly critics.. Market/focus segments > with a vested interest in the outcome need to be included as well, to > make sure the spectrum of opinions and interests are represented.. > Usually, the panel is carefully selected to look objective while wtill > ensuring that certain results/findings are certain. > > What happens when there is NO honest information broker? Just what we > saw economically when you allow banks that are investing in a > corporation to sell stock in that corporation and one-in-the-same-time > provide "objective analysts" of stocks to news outlets. There were > reasons for erecting a Chinee wall between brokers and bankers or > between auditors and consultants... Similarly, if you want true > objectivity on a panel, you have to include some of the critics.. > Nothing is more basicto the operation of a good independent panel. > That's why fields as varied and interrelated as marketing, sociologr, > polticial science, finance, or and psychology cite this honest brokering > of information and a willingness in some panel members to differ from > the accepted view as essential elements to effective group dynamics and > forum operation.. > > Keith > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=228862.2128520.3581629.1829184/D=egroupweb/S=1705019182:HM/A=1155065/R=0/*http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/990-1736-1039-302> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] News on Epson 2200 Gray Balancer SW
2002-08-02 by Truman Prevatt
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