Yeah, I don't think the Krylon will be the problem here...the question is if there is a nasty interaction between pigments and the paper coatings on the semi-matte/luster papers. My guess is that you will be ok...because the Semi-Matte paper was formulated to work with Epson Archival Pigments (10000). Might be useful to ask Paul Roark to put a test wedge in his fader just to have some idea where we stand. I could certainly supply the paper...but the test would be with Selenium Piezotone ink...I don't run any MIS inks anymore. Robert On 8/3/02 3:38 AM, "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> wrote: > Thanks Martin. The Ilford semi matte seems a nice paper for low dmax images. > I still prefer PR for long greys though. > > Julian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 6:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Paper > > >> Julian, >> >> Back in the earlier and mid 70's I sprayed a bunch of my silver prints > that >> were mounted on black board with Kyrlon spray primarily to try and keep > the >> black of the mattes black. The prints have spent most of their life in > boxes >> but some 30 years later things seem to be fine. My mother used a lot of >> Krylon on pencil and charcoal sketches and they are also doing well. Not >> hard data but maybe it will give you some reassurance. >> >> Martin Wesley >> >> http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "julianthomas221259" <julianthomas@...> >> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Paper >> >> >>> >>> Well I wouldn't go that far. My last 4 sales I've given customers the >>> choice of photorag or sprayed semimatte and once they've seen them >>> they've taken semi matte. The only problem spraying is to do it >>> without picking up crap out of the air. I'm a trifle nervous over >>> archival issues though. >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> >>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "tomoc" <TomOC@s...> wrote: >>>> Bill- >>>> >>>> Steve was understating your problem...pigment inks are horrible on >>>> glossy paper...spraying helps, but not an easy solution. >>>> >>>> If you really want glossy, you should be using a dye ink like Lyson >>>> Small Gamut. >>>> >>>> I think everyone would agree that FS inks are fantastic for matte >>> art >>>> papers. >>>> >>>> You might want to search the archives here for some threads on >>>> spraying...there are a few real experts on overcoating here. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Tom O'Connell >>>> >>>> TomOC@s... >>>> www.thomasoconnell.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Bill Boy <boy@c...> wrote: >>>>> Thanks for the info, Overcoating would be an option I will offer >>>> but >>>>> will try and see how they hold up. everything will be an >>> experiment. >>>>> >>>>> What paper would you recommend, I would like to get some sample >>>> packs >>>>> and play, I will do a lot of playing before selling, more fun too? >>>>> >>>>> ] >>> >>> >>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and >> other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Paper
2002-08-03 by Robert Morrison