I have been using the MIS VM inks for several months now and allways get a nozzle clog with the black ink only even after only 24 hrs. If I print today, tomorrow the black will have a clog that clears after 2-3 cleaning. Does anyone know what might be causing this. Vinny http://www.wulfsden.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...> wrote: > Alan, > > What seems to continue to be true is that we all are having a wide variety > of experience with the different ink sets. Some people do just fine and > others have nothing but problems. > > I have been running MIS-VM in one 1280 for 10 months or more with minimal > clogging or banding problems. A couple of strange incidents where a nozzle > cut out in the middle or a print and then kicked back in again before the > print was complete. > > I played around with MIS-FS, FS Neutral, Sepia-VM and some blends of my own > on my second 1280 using cartridges. This gave me many more problems with > clogs. Just about every print session needed to be proceeded with nozzle > checks and frequently multiple nozzle cleaning cycles and a couple of > overnight sits. > > I tried the Warm Neutral PiezoTone inks with a CIS in the same printer and > initially had zero clog problems. After several weeks I suddenly got some > banding which cleared up with a couple of nozzle cleanings. After that I had > to check nozzles at the start of every print session and usually do a > cleaning. After about 2 weeks of this I got nothing but good nozzle checks > and no more clogs. > > The same printer was changed over to the Selenium PiezoTone with a new CIS > and I have had minor clogging problems. I do a nozzle check before each > print session and it is good probably 8 or 9 times out of 10. The checks > that aren't good clear up in 1 to 4 nozzle cleaning cycles. I have lost a > couple of 13x19 prints when a nozzle clogged mid print like the VM but other > than that okay. No quite as clog free as the first 1280 with VM but good > enough if I do my checks. Nothing compared to the clog nightmares I had with > the original Piezo on my 1200. > > In general I have had much worse problems with clogs using cartridges than I > have using a CIS. This was true with my original 1200 and the original Piezo > inks as well. Other people have found the opposite to be true. They get > fewer clogs with cartridges and have a terrible time with the CIS. > > The only explanation I can offer is printer to printer variation. Or perhaps > climate extremes. > > In the mean time I am printing away with the Selenium PT and pretty much > like it better than anything else I have tried. I am sorry to hear they > worked out so poorly for you. > > Martin Wesley > > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A. Huntley" <prasepe@a...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:11 PM > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] PiezoTones: Are they ready for prime time ? > > > > I have tried several times and spent more $ than I care to admit to trying > to get the Piezo system routinely working successfully on > > my Epson 1160. Each time I have returned to MIS inks. I got so frustrated > this last time 'round that I loaded up a brand new CIS > > with MIS VM inks and tossed the PiezoTone ST cartridges in the trash! > Microbanding, clogging, etc., is, regardless what Jon and > > Co. say, a very real problem. They continually blame it on the > hardware...I ain't buying it! > > > > Case in point: when I had the ST cartridges installed, I printed a few > images one afternoon and returned the next evening to print > > another one. A quick nozzle check--which I routinely do every time before > beginning a print session--revealed about 1/2 the nozzles > > not firing. I ran several cleaning cycles, let it sit overnight (can't > tell ya how pleased I am to have to do this!), and the next day's > > nozzle check showed that all but 1 or 2 were firing properly. I went ahead > with my printing, anyway. Shouldn't have bothered because > > banding was present once again. > > > > OK...I've tossed the ST cartridges and installed MIS VM. Printed a couple > of images and, then the printer sat for maybe 4 or 5 > > days. Upon turning it on, I did my usual nozzle check and, voila, perfect > from the get go! Even the 1 or 2 that I could NEVER get > > going with the Piezo cartridges were now OK. Can't say I've totally given > up on Piezo--I'm stubborn and the paper profiles are a > > very nice to have item--but, given the ability to modify the "color" of > the print using Paul's VM inkset, and the results obtained, I'm > > pretty much sold on MIS VM for now. I'm getting beautiful prints on EAM. > I'm satisfied. Life is good......... > > > > Hope this helps in your decision. > > > > Best regards, > > Alan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: lawrencetrek [SMTP:ltitle@i...] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:59 AM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... > > Subject: [Digital BW] PiezoTones: Are they ready for prime time ? > > > > Microbanding, clogging, and now clipping ... > > > > As I debate making an investment into a new 1280 printer for PiezoTones > > carts, some of you guys are continuing to scare me off. How, prevalent > are > > these problems ? Are any of you having trouble free printing with the new > > inks (with the 1280 carts rather than CIS) and producing excellent prints > ? If > > so, why are others posting such problems. > > > > Now, I am starting to consider the prospect of buying the Epson 2200 and > > buying custom printer profiles to try to produce my B/W digital prints. > Could > > be less stressful until more of the kinks are removed from piezography. > Help > > and guidance would be appreciated. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] PiezoTones: Are they ready for prime time ?
2002-08-09 by vinyo88
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