Digital BW, The Print

Jann,

Actually I think the SpectraTone Quad inks would be great for doing a 
cartridge refill approach. All the concern over cartridges, air 
bubbles and clogs has to do with the pigmented inks. With dye based 
ink get some virgin empty cartridges, ink and a refill kit and you 
are in business.

If you like them and start printing in volume, refilling will 
probably become a chore but to try them out this would seem to be the 
least expensive path. $13.45 for a set of empty cartridges from MIS, 
$10 to $15 for the equipment to do the refills and $180 (6 x $30) for 
the ink.

I would check with Lincoln Inks to see if you need to run cleaning 
cartridges or not.

The statement "4oz bottles $30@ bottle (not interchangable with 
NoMoreCarts Nalgine)" just means that they use a different bottle for 
their inks than the standard bottles that are part of the CIS system 
so you would have to pour the ink from the Lincoln bottle into the 
CIS system bottles.

Cleaning cartridges do not come with the NoMoreCarts CIS. 

If you want glossy this is the way to go. Closer to an RC look than 
fiber but excellent quality. They have some art papers you can print 
on too. Contact them and see if you can get some of their sample 
prints. The print color is different from the Piezo and MIS. A cool, 
heavy selenium tone. If you look back on the list I reviewed some 
sample prints they sent me.

If you go with them please keep us posted on your progress and 
opinions.

Martin Wesley



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Jann Lipka " <polski@s...> 
wrote:
> Choices again ....
> About Lincoln inks :
> For 1200  inks don`t come prefilled in cartridges ready for 
> " plug and play "
> it seems that I would still need to fiddle ( sorry ) with CIS  
piping 
> from 
> MIS ( and do the Swedish ( YES ! ) chip trick )
> or 
> NoMore Carts ( ( but they Lincoln says -not interchangable with 
> NoMoreCarts Nalgine- what is Nalgine ?)
> 
> REfillable cartridges sounds in this group like NO NO because of 
the 
> air bubbles ?
> 
> The big advantage of Lincoln  solution for me would be of course 
> ability to use  glossy papers ( for those glossy customers ;-)).
> 
> I like that .
> 
> Would that soultion be much more expensive then MIS Variable ?
> If I buy a CIS system from Nomorecarts will it come also with 
> some cleaning cartridge or Do I have to buy extra ?
> 
> Sorry for all those questions , but it is a JUNGLE ....
> Anyway I just ordered a pack of Hahnemuhle Photorag ....
> SO very soon I`ll have to set everything up .
> 
> 
> BTW . I have ordered some things from Jon Cone , and those 
> came to Europe in just 48 hours  ( YES including customs )
> I was amazed , as it took  5 weeks for Amazon.com to ship me some 
> popular books .
> Regards 
> 
> > Jann Lipka , Stockholm,  Sw