Cross-posted One addition to the line up below is Red River Premium Matte, which is an inexpensive optically brightened paper. It is the coolest Selenium Piezotone print I have seen so far...but still less blue than FS-N on EAM. Black is a respectable 3. Robert On 8/16/02 2:02 PM, "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote: > I just completed a paper screen with the new Selenium Piezotones. My intent > is to share my impressions of the relative tone of the Seleniums on various > papers and then put them in perspective to the Neutral Warm Piezotones. In > addition, I'd say that the MIS FS-N inks are blue and cool and the original > Cone inks and MIS FS inks are warm (when fully warmed over the course of > several weeks) when compared to my "Cool" and "Warm" labels below. > > My observations are based on observing a continuous gray ramp, a gray wedge > and two test prints printed with custom profiles for Imageprint. All prints > were produced with an Epson 7000. > > I have also read dmax for these paper/ink combinations. I'm sharing > relative black ratings instead of actual dmax figures...because of > variability between various densitometers. I'm reading dmax with the > density setting on my spectrocam spectrophotomer. 5 is the top rating for > black and 1 is the bottom rating. The spread on my spectrophotometer is > about .25 dmax units. It is difficult to see differences in black of 1 > unit...but you can see the difference in 2 units. Also by way of reference, > the best black that I got with the piezo driver and FS or the original cone > inks would have been a 3 on Photorag...Osprey would have been a -2. > Somerset Velvet (uncoated Iris paper) on the old inks would have been about > -4 and -2 with the new inks. > > Here are the papers listed from Cool to Warm with black ratings at the end. > > Cool > SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Velvet or Satine Bright White--1 black > SelPT--Epson Archival Matte (Epson Enhanced Matte)--4 black > SelPT--Hahnemuhle Photorag (Media Street Royal Renasainse)--4.5 black > SelPT--Hawk Mountain Merlin--2 black > NWPT--Epson Archival Matte (Epson Enhanced Matte)--4 black > SelPT--Hawk Mountain Osprey--1 black > SelPT--Legion Somerset Enhanced--3.7 black > SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Soft White--2 black > SelPT--Crane Museo--4 black > SelPT--Hahnemuhle William Turner (Media Street Royal Jazz, Conetech Wells > river)--5 black > NWPT--Hahnemuhle Photorag (Media Street Royal Renasainse)--4.5 black > NWPT--Hawk Mountain Osprey--1 black > NWPT--SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Soft White--2 black > NWPT--Crane Museo--4 black > NWPT--Hahnemuhle William Turner (Media Street Royal Jazz, Conetech Wells > river)--5 black > Warm > > Roughly speaking the tones of inks follow the whiteness of the paper. The > Brightcube Bright White and EAM are loaded with optical brighteners and thus > are very white...the Photorag has the next largest quantity of > brighteners...etc. Perhaps of greatest interest is the cross over where the > ink tone for the NWPT on EAM actually crosses into the SelPT lineup. I've > had several other sets of eyes take a look at these prints and they > essentially agree with my ratings. > > Hope this helps, > > Robert > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Piezotones on Various Papers
2002-08-16 by Robert Morrison
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