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Re: [Digital BW] Piezotones on Various Papers

2002-08-16 by Robert Morrison

Cross-posted

One addition to the line up below is Red River Premium Matte, which is an
inexpensive optically brightened paper.  It is the coolest Selenium
Piezotone print I have seen so far...but still less blue than FS-N on EAM.
Black is a respectable 3.

Robert

On 8/16/02 2:02 PM, "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...> wrote:

> I just completed a paper screen with the new Selenium Piezotones.  My intent
> is to share my impressions of the relative tone of the Seleniums on various
> papers and then put them in perspective to the Neutral Warm Piezotones. In
> addition, I'd say that the MIS FS-N inks are blue and cool and the original
> Cone inks and MIS FS inks are warm (when fully warmed over the course of
> several weeks) when compared to my "Cool" and "Warm" labels below.
> 
> My observations are based on observing a continuous gray ramp, a gray wedge
> and two test prints printed with custom profiles for Imageprint.  All prints
> were produced with an Epson 7000.
> 
> I have also read dmax for these paper/ink combinations.  I'm sharing
> relative black ratings instead of actual dmax figures...because of
> variability between various densitometers.  I'm reading dmax with the
> density setting on my spectrocam spectrophotomer.  5 is the top rating for
> black and 1 is the bottom rating.  The spread on my spectrophotometer is
> about .25 dmax units.  It is difficult to see differences in black of 1
> unit...but you can see the difference in 2 units.  Also by way of reference,
> the best black that I got with the piezo driver and FS or the original cone
> inks would have been a 3 on Photorag...Osprey would have been a -2.
> Somerset Velvet (uncoated Iris paper) on the old inks would have been about
> -4 and -2 with the new inks.
> 
> Here are the papers listed from Cool to Warm with black ratings at the end.
> 
> Cool
> SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Velvet or Satine Bright White--1 black
> SelPT--Epson Archival Matte (Epson Enhanced Matte)--4 black
> SelPT--Hahnemuhle Photorag (Media Street Royal Renasainse)--4.5 black
> SelPT--Hawk Mountain Merlin--2 black
> NWPT--Epson Archival Matte (Epson Enhanced Matte)--4 black
> SelPT--Hawk Mountain Osprey--1 black
> SelPT--Legion Somerset Enhanced--3.7 black
> SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Soft White--2 black
> SelPT--Crane Museo--4 black
> SelPT--Hahnemuhle William Turner (Media Street Royal Jazz, Conetech Wells
> river)--5 black
> NWPT--Hahnemuhle Photorag (Media Street Royal Renasainse)--4.5 black
> NWPT--Hawk Mountain Osprey--1 black
> NWPT--SelPT--Brightcube Eclipse Soft White--2 black
> NWPT--Crane Museo--4 black
> NWPT--Hahnemuhle William Turner (Media Street Royal Jazz, Conetech Wells
> river)--5 black
> Warm
> 
> Roughly speaking the tones of inks follow the whiteness of the paper.  The
> Brightcube Bright White and EAM are loaded with optical brighteners and thus
> are very white...the Photorag has the next largest quantity of
> brighteners...etc.  Perhaps of greatest interest is the cross over where the
> ink tone for the NWPT on EAM actually crosses into the SelPT lineup.  I've
> had several other sets of eyes take a look at these prints and they
> essentially agree with my ratings.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Robert
> 
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