Richard, That kind of tonal transition is seems to be a tough one for inkjet printing. I have found the Epson driver is often a better choice in cases like this. I am afraid I have more questions than answers. Can you give us some info on the file size, 16 or 8 bit, ppi? How does the histogram look? What happens if you print the straight scan from 16-bit mode without any adjustments? Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich8155" <richard@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo vs. Randall example and results. Questions,.... > Hello all, > > I'm still a relative beginner at this but after 2 months I am > getting some very satisfactory results. Some background: I use an > Epson 1160 with an MIS CFS loaded with MIS FS-N inks. I have the > Piezo driver and usually print with that as I have found in > comparisons with the Epson driver (with Randall curve applied) the > Piezo gives more dotless mid-tones and highlights. Sometimes > however some prints look better with the Randall curve (the Piezo > tends to print darker). So, with the less dots I have mostly used > the Piezo driver and have been in awe of the smooth mid-tones in > particular. > > But now I have printed an image that is showing me an amazing > difference from the Piezo driver results to the Epson drive/randall > curve results, and the Piezo is falling very flat in this instance. > The image can be found here: > > <http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=956273&size=lg> > > as you can see we have some fairly fast and radical transition from > severe highlights to almost pure black. I printed the Piezo one > first and as you can see there are obvious and very poor transition > points to be seen around the highlights. The result is awful and > unacceptable output. The Epson driver/Randall curve seems to have > handled the transition in a much smoother and acceptable manner. > > I have printed out two 21stepNew.jpg wedges using each driver since > then and I cannot really see any fault with either of them (again > though the Piezo prints darker shadows). They both look very good to > my untrained and less-experienced eye. So I am puzzled. > > I am not showing this to try and put down the Piezo driver. I am > more asking if what I am finding here is typical or perhaps points > to a problem with my method or process. If I only printed with the > Piezo I would think it has something to do with my printer, but from > the Randall results we can see the printer has the ability to print > just fine. I have followed the set-up and workflow of both > drivers/curves precisely. > > Any suggestions on why I'm getting these results? > > Thank you for any input and comment. > > Regards, > > Richard > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo vs. Randall example and results. Questions,....
2002-08-18 by Martin Wesley
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