Jeff, Alfie, and all, Inkjetart.com has a very good article on the C-80. I've been using one for general printing duties, and have played with it for photo printing with surprisingly good results. One feature of note is that the black ink (unlike the CMY inks) is not very compatible with photo-gloss papers, so if you set the paper selector to either gloss or semi-gloss, the image is formed of CMY inks rather than CMYK (with a resultant loss of d-max image area). If you override and choose matt paper (while actually printing on gloss) the black ink will easily rub off, so the print must be sprayed for stability. I've also noticed a strong color balance change (to warm) when switching the selector to matt. Karl Wolz -----Original Message----- From: J Greer [mailto:jgpinfo@...] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:24 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New to the inkjet printing game... I have a C80 I use for general printing. I also ran a few photos off with it just to see what it would do and they are not bad. I printed a tinted monochrome image (an RGB file). The prints came out more orange that what I saw on the screen and I didn't spend any time trying to tweak things. Two papers I used were Concord Rag and Somerset Photo Enhanced Velvet. The Somerset had darker blacks and a less orange tone than the Concord Rag. You can also do prints with black ink only to remove color casts. From a normal viewing distance, the prints look pretty good. Get up close with a loupe and you can see the dots. You can also see dots up close on color images (it is, after all, a 4-color printer). Epson Archival Matte also works well. For a printer under $200, with separate carts and inks rated with a decent life, the C80 is nice little printer. Jeff Greer At 04:49 PM 08/20/2002 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Digital BW folks, > >I'm Alfie Wang, a 25-yr. old street/documentary photog who has become >a lot more interested in digital b and w. I used to be a die hard >traditionalist and thought that digital shooting and printing was a >joke. However, my attitude totally changed when I saw some grand >prints by G. Plantigina (look at photovillage.com gallery for >examples) and the Leica shots looked stunning when I went there in >person. I was stunned. The range of tonality and shadow details were >captured beatifully. ;) > >My head got a change instead. I've decided to try out inkjet printer >of b and w prints. I plan to get a Epson C80 to start off some test >prints and next year I will make the full change into B and W >piezography using a Epson 1280 or 2200 (once Jon Cone gets the >profiles for the printer 2200 model). > >I even decided to add digital shooting in addition to my shooting >with Leicas and Nikons. A Nikon Coolpix 775 does a very reasonable >job in my opinion and for me, the method of shooting isn't as >important as the ability to print what you see or desire to see ;)... >so I have a few questions here: > >1) Does anyone here use digital cameras and output into piezography >(preferably Cone's inks I'm more interested in...)? > >2) Which outfits do you shoot with personally? I'm very close to >thinking about using some Holga shots and doing piezography on toy >cameras??? A joke perhaps but worthwhile shot... > >3) What perked your interested in digital black and white printing? > >4) What made you switch from silver halide based processes to digital? > >5) Why do die-hard traditionalists object to digital black and white >prints? Tonality range? Shadow detail blockage? etc. etc.? > >Thanks for your help and I look forward to working and learning (more >of that) from the intelligent folks here who are more experienced >than I am! > >sincerely, Alfie > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and >other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to >unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same >page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- Include your full name with your message. >- Include the address of your website, if you have one. >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep >them short. >- As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. >- Good manners are required at all time. 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RE: [Digital BW] New to the inkjet printing game...
2002-08-21 by Karl Wolz
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