Digital BW, The Print

Martin,
Actually you can't buy the old rip from Cone anymore.  They've been
"backordered" indefinately - I tried to buy the rip for my 7000 for
two months from them.  I have customers to print for, and while I
wanted to try imageprint with the piezotones, I couldn't wait, and I
still don't know if their recipies are ready.  I had that rip for a
month and was forced to move on.  That is a great rip, but without
recipies, it did me no good with my indelibles either.  The BW Pro
from digitalartsupplies is Cone's old rip from R9.  Exactly the same.
 I got my copy from digitalartsupplies two weeks ago, and now I am
finally printing for my customers.
The new cone rip is a variation of a different rip alltogether.  I
don't think I am at liberty to share what RIP it is, so I won't. 

And, I LOVE the BW PRO.It is no fuss, put the disk in and run it. 
Simple for an idiot like me.  However, layout features like imageprint
would be pretty darn cool.  I've sampled 4 different rips lately, I
feel like I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. 

best,
Tony




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> Quentin,
> 
> Confusing is right! Given that the Sundance software is simply the
same as
> the Piezo software, I would be inclined to buy from Inkjetmall since
they
> have an active tech support department. If Sundance is offering a
"new &
> improved" version they really need to beat their drums and let us
know.
> 
> I have also heard various rumors connecting ConeTech and Colorbyte.
Only
> time will tell, although the ConeTech/Sundance connection was kept
pretty
> quite, so ConeTech may not reveal the source of Piezo 2.
> 
> Are things really getting all that more crowded or is it more like
> Hahnemuhle papers where the same thing is sold under a multitude of
names?
> 
> I did not post this on the Piezo list since it is owned by ConeTech.
Their
> policy has been to ask people not to discuss competing products on
their
> list and I don't want to violate their wishes.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback on your experience with the PiezoBWPro and
the 1160.
> Doesn't sound like I would want to rush out an spend all that money
if there
> is not a significant quality improvement.
> 
> Martin Wesley
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "qdfb" <qdb@b...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:07 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: News on the Sundace/R9 Software
> 
> 
> Martin,
> 
> Have you posted this on the Piezo listserve?
> 
> Things in the world of digital B&W printing are getting more
> complicated.
> 
> From the description, this software sounds the same as Piezo plugin
> and Piezo Pro.  The current Piezo Pro software is about to be
> replaced by a new version.  On top of that, ImagePrint, who I
believe
> orginally developed "Piezo2" (not pursued) for Jon Cone, have their
> own advanced B&W solution as part of their RIP, which of course has
> one advantage, in that it drives colour printers too.
> 
> We will shortly therefore have a choice of three competing B&W Pro
> level RIPs:  The B&WPRO from Sundance (presumably a new incarnation
> of the current Cone RIP), the new Piezo Pro RIP from Jon Cone, and
> the ImagePrint 5 colour/B&W RIP.
> 
> Market is getting a bit crowded all of a sudden :-)
> 
> To answer your question, I have printed to a 1160 using Piezo B&W
> Pro, and the result looked pretty identical to using the plugin.
> --
> 
> Quentin
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley"
> <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > Some news from Digital Art Supplies about the different versions
of
> the Sundance/R9 software:
> >
> > "IMAGE EXPORT BW
> > Image Export BW is an Adobe® Photoshop® export plug-in that
runs
> under the Windows® and Macintosh® operating systems and
drives Epson®
> desktop printers. Export BW allows the user to take advantage of
> Photoshop®'s file handling and image manipulation features in an
> environment familiar to most photographers and artists. The
Windows®
> version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop® versions 5 and
> higher. All 32-bit versions of Windows® are supported.  The
> Macintosh® version of Image Export BW runs under Photoshop®
versions
> 5 and higher. The new announcement is that a version for MacOS 10.1
> is now available.  This software was written to work best with
> Sundance Neutral Warm & Neutral Cool inks.   The purchase price is
> $149.95 http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/r9imexbwplug.html
> >
> > BWPRO
> > BWPro is a raster image processor that runs under the Windows®
> operating system and drives Epson® desktop and wide-format
printers.
> All 32-bit versions of Windows® are supported.  The RIP drives
Epson®
> desktop and wide-format printers, up to 42" in width. A single
> licensed RIP can drive multiple printers at the same time. The RIP
> uses "extended" ICQ profiles, that can be manipulated via a unique
> user interface called "K to L mapping', and that allow the user to
> apply the characteristics of the B&W printing system when previewing
> an image.http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sunbwepripst.html  This
> can be purchased as a system with Sundance inks or as standalone
> software.
> >
> >
> > BWPRO LITE
> > BWPro Lite is a raster image processor that runs under the
Windows®
> operating system and drives Epson® desktop printers. All 32-bit
> versions of Windows® are supported.
> >
> > http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/sundancebwpro.html"
> >
> >
> >
> > The BWPRO is selling for $1,450 and the BWPRO LITE for $495. Looks
> like they are trying to fill the same price ranges as PiezoPro and
> ImagePrint. I assume that this is the same software as the Piezo
> plugin and PiezoPro. Does anyone have any experience to relate to
> using the PiezoPro with desktop printers?
> >
> >
> > Martin Wesley
> >
> > http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
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