Digital BW, The Print

I think film is and a good scanner is the key. Expose for the shadows 
and develop for the highlights. There is no counterpart for this with a 
digital camera. First most digital cameras have a max of 12 (some of the 
medium format digital backs have 16 ) bits dynamic range and there are 
no provisions for compressing the curve prior the data capture. In any 
digital system you normally lose 1.5 to 2 bits worth of dynamic range. 
With film you have options of  exposure and developer combinations to 
capture a much greater dynamic range in the image and then fit it into 
the dynamic range of the film. There are scenes that cannot be shot with 
a digital camera without either dumping shadows detail or saturating 
highlights.

If either end of the digital technology is "not there yet" I'd say it's 
the camera end.

Truman

bgs wrote:

> film
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "treadwinkle" <VOLveeta@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 1:12 AM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Is anyone REALLY thrilled? Honestly?
>
>
> I'm shooting actor headshots.  I've got a Canon d60, Epson 1280,
> piezotone warm neutrals and... eh!  I'm waiting for "the paper" to
> arrive because thusfar, with the Epson Archival Matte, the results
> are just plain unacceptable.  The Hahnemühle Photo rag is on
> backorder, and I don't know if IT will satisfy whenever I finally
> ACTUALLY see the stuff.  It's such a crapshoot, I'm this close to
> returning to the darkroom.  Does the right paper REALLY exist?
>
> Is anyone out there SO happy with their digital b&w production that
> will PLEASE ease my fears that I've dived into a technology that
> really hasn't gotten there yet?  Help me!!!  Is it possible to find
> b&w satisfaction in the digital world?  Can real b&w be achieved?
>
> I'm at a point where I just want someone to say, "try this paper
> with that particular ink and printer and you'll get very good
> results".  Because so far, well... I'm tired of wasting money.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts.
>
> Treadwinkle
>
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