----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Tucker" <mtucker508@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] can we print images like this digitally??? (snip earlier) > > But for everyday printing, I always tone and print in RGB. That's why I never > really read this list very much any more, because being limited to pure BW is just > far too limiting for me. I'm sure many people see in neutral BW, but I don't. The > downside is that it makes me have to be pretty anal about my profiles, so that I > don't get color crossover when making BW prints with 7 color inks of the 9600. Hey Mark, Actually Antonis and I meant B&W in a broader sense of the term which would include anything vaguely monochrome. Still waiting for someone to report about making contact negs for cyanotype or albumen printing. You just abandoned the list to all us chromatically challenged folks and had the good sense to actually go an make some prints.<G> I posted your work flow in the files section since this question does come up pretty often. Thanks, Martin > > Here's how I work, to show you how simple: > > * Scan PortraBW120 on Imacon in Greyscale. > * Burn/dodge/correct in Greyscale. > * Convert to RGB and start toning. > * Usually I work in Levels and not HSB/Colorize, because Colorize seems to > introduce this harsh banding in the tones. Harsh gradations between values. > * Levels>RedChannel: Increase Red. > * Levels>BlueChannel: Increase Yellow. > * Then Curves>BlueChannel: Pull down highlight to add yellow to highlights. > * Look at Image. At this point, probably do overall Curves>Increase Contrast to > add punch. (Obviously you MUST work from calibrated monitor). > * Go in with highlight dodge tool and open up highlights locally back to almost pure > white. (If major things are done at this point, I convert from RGB to LAB, and > view in all three channels, but work ONLY in the Lightness channel, otherwise > when you dodge or burn, you'll dodge/burn in a different "color" than what you've > already toned). > * Do that, and convert back to RGB. > * Make test print, using custom ICC profile on 9600. > * SaveAs file, with ".epson" suffix, and then tweak that file based on what I'm > seeing in the print. (Print is usually VERY close to monitor, but sometimes you > still wanna take it further or different). > > -- > > Reading all this, it looks kinda complicated, but once you do it once or twice, you > do it without even thinking. Also, I usually toned every image slightly differently, > that's another reason I would not want to be limited to quad inks or bw inks. Too > little freedom. > > I would think for most people on this list, a 2200 with PhotoRag, properly > profiled, and a calibrated monitor, would be a rockin combination. But hey, it's > America, Land of Choice. I just don't have enough patience to maintain TWO > printers, one for color and another for BW. I choose to get a good solid > relationship with one printer, and work it for all it's worth. > > Just one guy's approach. > > Mark Tucker, http://marktucker.com/ > > PS. David, that Wolfson image is sweet, even on my Powerbook screen. > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] can we print images like this digitally???
2002-09-12 by Martin Wesley
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