Digital BW, The Print

Michael,

First, you have some really great work on your website and I recommend it to
the members. Liked your "Favorites" and "Cuba" portfolios especially. Also
the idea of golf and art photography are not two things I had ever connected
in my own head. Well done! I stuck your website in the group Links under
Photographers.

As to the match between the various inks and the Piezo plugin, the original
Piezo inks seem to be the best in this regard. Not surprising since they are
what the software was designed for. It seems likely that the new Sundance
Neutral-Warm inks would also a good match or have their own profiles within
the R9 plugin since Sundance does have the software resources to make new
profiles. I wish we would get some user reports on this ink.

The MIS-FS and FS Neutral seem to be very close for use with the profiles.
At least there have been a large number of people switching from the
original Piezo ink to these inks and no complaints about a poor profile
match.

I have been able to work well with the existing profiles and the Selenium PT
on my 1280 running under Windows 2000. People with other printers and OS's
have had different experiences. In switching to the FS-K with the Sel-PT
grays I think that there is a better fit to the profiles in the deep shadows
but it would still be nice to have the profiles tweaked.

I am sorry about your print recall. The Selenium-PT got me really excited
about printing and I ran through a lot of expensive 13x19 paper over the
last few weeks. I am now in the process of tweaking the files to reprint
with the PT-K. I am not happy. I am especially not happy since I believe a
lot of people may have went with this ink based upon my initial positive
posts.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "mfp90021" <mfp90021@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:52 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Exposed INK


>
> I would like to thank Paul, Martin, Antonis and the rest for all
> their
> hard work testing all the inks and especially for sharing the
> knowledge.  Without your efforts we would have continued to
> believe the false advertising claims of some of our suppliers.
> These self proclaimed geniuses need to make good.  I am in the
> process of recalling close to 30 framed prints, before they are
> returned to me.  Its rather an embarrassing process as I
> assured my clients the prints were archival, at least beyond that
> of a C print.  I was under the impression they would last 75-100
> years.  To call them and tell them that their pictures are going to
> turn red within months is completely unacceptable to me, and a
> major setback for my clients to accept the digital process.  I have
> to say that I was also very disappointed when told that the
> Piezotones would work perfectly with the Piezo software only to
> find that they did not.  Then to find out the reason that the new
> inks were not profiled was because the "inventor" did not have
> the technology to profile his own inks.
>
> What to do now?  It seems that I will either switch back to the
> Sundance inks, go for the MIS FS-N, or switch to MIS FS-N black
> with the Piezotone inks.  My question is will the MIS inks give me
> the smooth grayscale that the Sundance inks did with the R9
> driver?  Is this Piezo/MIS combo plug and play with the R9 driver?
> Should I switch to MIS FS-N for all the inks and is that plug and
> play with the R9 driver?
>
> I've seen enough amazing digital prints to stick with it and with
> forums like this sharing knowledge its just a matter of time for
> this technology to mature and be embraced.  Thanks again to all
> for your honesty and hard work keeping us informed and
> exposing poor products.
>
> Durst and Sneider still in storage!
>
> -Michael
>
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