Todd, how many pixels did you feather your mask for the blacks? I'll try this! Jerry Todd Flashner wrote: > Here I go, answering myself, as usual. Okay, after I wrote the stuff below I > happened two print two grayscales which overlapped, and sure enough, max > black was denser where the two overlapped. So I tried it on an image that > has some large black expanses - the one I used for the first piezo exchange > in fact. Yes, rather noticeable difference. > > Ya hearin' me Jerry? BLACKER BLACKS! Perfect registration on my 1160 with > the paper guide set just snug. > > It's all in the right mask. Where you allow the overprint to cut off, and > curtail spill-over into unwanted areas. I happen to like masks, but for > those who don't, but like good blacks, this might be reason enough to pull > that PS book off the shelf for review. ;-) > > Todd > > > Well, I got the feeling if the print were being back-lit the extra density > > would have made a difference, but once enough is put down to be opaque over > > the paper, the only way at that point to increase depth would be to add > > gloss, to change it's reflectivity. What was happening in my case was that > > the more tones of "black" I included in my image, the more they blocked up, > > and detail was lost, yet just hitting the true blacks with a second pass was > > too minimal to matter. > > > > > >> Todd, I've also noticed that SOME times you can indeed get a perfect > >> registration. I couldn't hardly believe it. It sure is odd you didn't > >> get any denser blacks with a second pass. Guess the ink was really black, no? > >> > >> J > > > >> > >> Todd Flashner wrote: > >> > >>> Regarding multiple passes of the same sheet on a press, I did try running a > >>> print through my 1160 twice to try to lay down a denser black. First I ran > >>> the print through as normal, then I made a mask which allowed for printing > >>> only of the lower values of the print. I wanted to leave the mid tones and > >>> highlights alone on the 2nd pass, but double up the blacks. Good news and > >>> bad. Good: perfect registration (if anyone is going to try this I recommend > >>> you do immediately successive passes on the same printer, so that the paper > >>> guide and everything is exactly as it was on the first pass. Bad: no visible > >>> density difference. Now if I did two passes over the entirety of the print > >>> it'd double the density, and the whole print would be (was) a stop darker, > >>> but by just doubling up the blacks *I* did not see the benefit. > >>> > >>> Oh well... > >>> > >>> Now, if you could/can get exact registration on two printers you could do > >>> some very interesting toning effects by printing colors over quads, for > >>> instance. Not that any one should want to, but it does make for some > >>> interesting possibilities. > >>> > >>> Todd > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Nicholas Hartmann's Mono/multiple passes
2001-09-04 by Jerry Olson
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