Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> Austin, Tim,
> 
> I think you are both largely correct and I understand your positions. They
> sort of combine in the statement:
> 
> The camera rarely lies but it seldom tells the truth.
> 
> Personally I don't care how little or how much a print has been manipulated
> before or after the shutter clicked or in the dark or in the computer. If it
> is a good print and I like it, how it got that way is not important. (Unless
> I want to know how to do it myself!<G>)
> 
> Good printers (as in people who make photographic prints) will probably make
> good prints regardless of whether they are in the darkroom or the computer.
> The making of a good print is a matter of artistic talent and dedication to
> the craft.
> 
> Martin Wesley

YAY MARTIN   i am not a photographer, as i have told you in off group (but a visual artist using these tools), but i truly think one needs to follow NOT THE RULES 
OF THE TOOLS, but what you are trying to SEE and get SEEN (may i say what you FEEL and want to share?)  why else DO it?    no matter how "perfect" you get 
(perfection being impossible) if it says nothing, it truly SAYS NOTHING! 

so use all the tools, whatever way you use them, and be the artist rather than the shooter/technician      the art world has not so easily accepted photography as an art 
form   i do    but if you argue forever over the small things, how do you ever have time or energy for the looking and seeing? which precede the taking of that shot that 
stops your heart and that of others    i have seen some shots i found on this discussion (links) which stopped my heart and made me want to LIVE THERE for some 
time AND return to there   now THERE, my friends, is ART!    jno


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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@i...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 9:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Very cool B&W Lightjet prints
> 
> 
> >
> > > > Well, Tim, I understand what you're saying, and still believe you're a
> > > > sandwich short of a picnic, and entirely missing the point ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Austin
> > >
> > > your welcome Austin! I understand - you're and engineer and I
> > > know where you
> > > are coming from - no problemo  :-)
> > >
> > > tim
> >
> >
> > And...I know where I'm going too...to BED!
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Austin
> >
> >
> >
> >
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