Digital BW, The Print

I know... I printed my last solo show on WR and after brushing, printing,
drying they went straight into mattes and frames - look great still. It
isn't a general purpose paper at all - just as some of the more delicate
Japanese papers aren't. But for the 'fine' exhibition print they are great.
I'm currently trying to print (banding aggggghhhh) a set of 20 prints for a
portfolio view and I know these will be shuffled out of bags etc so I'm
doing it on PR, even though I'll probably print the exhibit (if I get it) on
WR.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Loving that Cone Wells River paper...


> Julian,
>
> What better test of a paper than this? If a paper flakes a lot with this
> test, it will
> probably flake later on.  You should see the prints that Lyson sent me
> as samples when I first started digital printing, about 6 or 7 years
> ago. They sent samples of all of their papers, the very expensive ones.
> Each had many white flakes when I got them. Now, there are hundreds of
> flakes all over the prints and they have just been in a box.
> Unbelievable. I'm sure we have come a long way since then, but unless
> you actually wipe down the paper before printing, and do put your prints
> in a protective sleeve, they will flake!
>
> Jerry
>
> Julian Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Jerry is a bit of an animal when it comes to his prints :-)
>
> Meow!
>
>  The very idea o
> > f putting fineprints in a stack and shuffling them!! I ask you... I use
WR a
> > lot (and PR) with EAM for workprints. The WR (brushed down before I
print on
> > it as that gets rid of any loose stuff) goes straight into plastic bags
or
> > frames. The only time I came a cropper was using it for a print exchange
and
> > folk put them in a stack and , um, shuffled them and they didn't like it
too
> > much!
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Albert Wang" <leica_phile@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Loving that Cone Wells River paper...
> >
> > > Hi Jerry,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info about Wells River. I like the texture quite a bit
> > > and will test more sheets of it later on... So far I only printed out
> > > 2 test prints on it and put them into an Itoya binder. Anyways, is
> > > the thicker William Turner 308 less susceptible to the flaking
> > > problem? If so, I would love to test that one and see how that goes.
> > >
> > > Tonite I will be working on the German Etching paper and hope that I
> > > can get better results. I will invest into a ICC profiling system
> > > from Cone system for the C80 and see whether i get better results
> > > than before ya know? :D
> > >
> > > sincerely, AW
> > >
> > > > Albert, The Wells River paper, which is supposed to be a thin
> > > William
> > > > Turner, is notorious for flaking. Print a print with a lot of
> > > blacks and
> > > > then put in a stack of other prints, and shuffle through the stack
> > > a few
> > > > times. You should see hundreds of little tiny white flecks in the
> > > black
> > > > areas. I did, when I tried the paper about a year ago. Other than
> > > that,
> > > > it's a great paper...
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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