Digital BW, The Print

It is...I'm pretty sure that Antonis is planning on doing it.

Robert

On 9/21/02 7:29 PM, "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...> wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> Thanks for the report. Is the effect strong enough to show up on a scan? If
> it is, I would appreciate a scan of even a portion of the image to post.
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] EAM+Piezotones: Printer beware!
> 
> 
>> I'm confirming Antonis's result.  I have had exactly the same result now
>> with the Selenium Piezotones.  I have a large print on EAM that was
> printed
>> one month ago.  For the last 5 days it was in a room that receives
>> intermittent strong day light...probably about 2 hours a day.  After 5
> days
>> it shows the bad crossover warming/fading that Antonis describes below.
>> Prints made at the same time that were stored in the dark do not show
> this.
>> This experience eliminates the Piezotone black for me.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> in a room thOn 9/8/02 9:25 AM, "antonisphoto" <antonisphoto@...>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a series of large prints on EAM made with the new Warm-Tone
>>> Piezotones on a 7000 using ImagePrint 4.  They were printed 2 months
> ago,
>>> and since they were meant as proofs,  I clipped them up on the walls
>>> unframed. The room they have been hanging gets no direct sun but has
>>> plenty of daylight from a southern window.
>>> 
>>> I was gone for a few weeks and when I returned a few days ago I noticed
> to
>>> my great dismay that the black and near-black areas had turned brown.
> Since
>>> that is also a lighter value than the original black, these areas now
> appear
>>> "solarized" or "bronzed out". IOW, the brown appears within a clear
> contour
>>> from the surrounding image which is not affected.
>>> 
>>> I am guessing these are the areas where the black ink kicks in. So, I
> have
>>> many questions and theories, but no answers. Maybe we can compare notes?
>>> 
>>> - Is this happening only on Epson Archival Matte (and the recently
> renamed
>>> version)? Any other papers? Does it happen behind glass?
>>> 
>>> - Is this what Paul Roark predicted about PT black - except this
> happened in
>>> (a short) real time and real world  conditions rather than a fader?
> Pretty
>>> scary.
>>> 
>>> - If the above is a paper-wide symptom, InkjetMall needs to recall the
> black
>>> PT
>>> ink (which is common to all sets) and refund or replace with a known
> stable
>>> ink such as MIS.
>>> 
>>> - Since InkjetMall no longer supports their inks with profiles and
> software,
>>> we
>>> need to alert Colorbyte and R9 to the need for strange new combinations
> of
>>> inks such as PT grays with MIS FS black or MIS DD. I realize this is
> already
>>> an old idea on this list, but I thought it applied to cases that need
>>> "extreme"
>>> archival stability. I didn't think the Piezotones wouldn't even last 2
>>> months!!
>>> And to think they were originally hyped up as pure pigment!
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Antonis
>>> 
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