Digital BW, The Print

Not yet, but I will put a Museo sheet printed at the same time in a similar
location and we'll see what happens.

Robert

On 9/22/02 2:52 AM, "Antonis Ricos" <antonisphoto@...> wrote:

> Robert,
> 
> do you happen to have any other paper similarly printed and exposed to
> daylight? We need to see if the same happens on other papers - though, if it
> happens this fast on EAM, why would anyone want to use the PT black.
> 
> Anyone else? .....
> 
> 
> Antonis
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison <rmorrison@p...>
> wrote:
>> I'm confirming Antonis's result.  I have had exactly the same result now
>> with the Selenium Piezotones.  I have a large print on EAM that was printed
>> one month ago.  For the last 5 days it was in a room that receives
>> intermittent strong day light...probably about 2 hours a day.  After 5 days
>> it shows the bad crossover warming/fading that Antonis describes below.
>> Prints made at the same time that were stored in the dark do not show this.
>> This experience eliminates the Piezotone black for me.
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> in a room thOn 9/8/02 9:25 AM, "antonisphoto" <antonisphoto@y...>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a series of large prints on EAM made with the new Warm-Tone
>>> Piezotones on a 7000 using ImagePrint 4.  They were printed 2 months
> ago,
>>> and since they were meant as proofs,  I clipped them up on the walls
>>> unframed. The room they have been hanging gets no direct sun but has
>>> plenty of daylight from a southern window.
>>> 
>>> I was gone for a few weeks and when I returned a few days ago I noticed
> to
>>> my great dismay that the black and near-black areas had turned brown.
> Since
>>> that is also a lighter value than the original black, these areas now appear
>>> "solarized" or "bronzed out". IOW, the brown appears within a clear
> contour
>>> from the surrounding image which is not affected.
>>> 
>>> I am guessing these are the areas where the black ink kicks in. So, I have
>>> many questions and theories, but no answers. Maybe we can compare
> notes?
>>> 
>>> - Is this happening only on Epson Archival Matte (and the recently
> renamed
>>> version)? Any other papers? Does it happen behind glass?
>>> 
>>> - Is this what Paul Roark predicted about PT black - except this happened
> in
>>> (a short) real time and real world  conditions rather than a fader? Pretty
>>> scary.
>>> 
>>> - If the above is a paper-wide symptom, InkjetMall needs to recall the black
>>> PT 
>>> ink (which is common to all sets) and refund or replace with a known
> stable
>>> ink such as MIS.
>>> 
>>> - Since InkjetMall no longer supports their inks with profiles and software,
>>> we 
>>> need to alert Colorbyte and R9 to the need for strange new combinations
> of
>>> inks such as PT grays with MIS FS black or MIS DD. I realize this is
> already
>>> an old idea on this list, but I thought it applied to cases that need
>>> "extreme" 
>>> archival stability. I didn't think the Piezotones wouldn't even last 2
>>> months!! 
>>> And to think they were originally hyped up as pure pigment!
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Antonis 
>>> 
>>> 
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