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Re: [Digital BW] EAM+Piezotones: Printer beware!

2002-09-23 by Martin Wesley

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "James Downs" <silvergull@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 9:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] EAM+Piezotones: Printer beware!


> Martin: If I may, what is your usual guarantee regarding the 
> replacement of an inkjet print?
> Thank you, Jim

Jim,

I would offer the same guarantee as I have with my silver fiber prints. If the print should prove defective due to materials or workmanship I will replace it at no charge. I would expect photographers to do this regardless of the medium. You need to stand behind your work. If my inkjet prints should fade I would not expect the buyer to take a loss. Obviously the guarantee is only good as long as I am alive and still able to make prints. 

I tell people that photographs should not be hung where they will receive any direct sunlight, be exposed to moisture or be subjected to extreme temperatures. They should be framed under glass or plastic with quality archival materials.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html


On Sunday, September 22, 2002, at 07:53 PM, Martin Wesley wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Smith" <lsmith@...>
> To: "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint yahoogroups.com"
> <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 6:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] EAM+Piezotones: Printer beware!
>
>
> > On 9/22/02 11:18 AM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Holy Cow, you'd think Cone would have gotten his inks right by 
> now. How
> > > many times has he had faulty inks? 5? 6? Wonder if he does any 
> real
> > > world tests.
> > >
> > > Sheesh!
> > >
> > > Jerry
> >
> >
> >
> > And we all wonder why the gallery owners have not been quick to 
> accept our
> > inkjet prints. I know I can't afford to take these kind of risks 
> with my
> > clients. How many times can we tell them that these are 'archival' 
> when
> in
> > fact they fade faster than my 501 levi's?
>
> >
> Lawrence,
>
> The original Piezo/Sundance inks had problems with clogging, "green 
> shift"
> and a hue that some people did not like. While we know that the ink 
> warm
> shifts, at this point in time there have been no reports of abrupt
> catastrophic fading. There are many fine examples of prints made with 
> those
> inks that are doing just fine. The print you submitted to Shilesh's 
> 13x19
> exchange last year looks just like new.
>
> In addition keep in mind that the PiezoTone grays appear to be 
> significantly
> more fade resistant. Archival B&W printing is still bleeding edge 
> stuff but
> things are getting better. It is just a case of two steps forward, one 
> step
> back at the moment. Give it a few years. Inkjet has already surpassed 
> silver
> based color prints for fade resistance and they may wind up surpassing
> silver B&W as the technology advances.
>
> I for one would not have a problem selling carbon pigment inkjet 
> prints and
> labeling them as such with my usual replacement guarantee.
>
> Martin Wesley
>
> http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html
>
>
>
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