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Paper coatings was Replace Eclipse with Museo.....

2002-09-28 by Martin Wesley

Jerry,

Not a silly question at all. The coatings used on the inkjet papers is one
area where it seems we have little knowledge. For the different companies I
imagine the specific formulas and application techniques they use are
closely guarded secrets just as the silver emulsions are.

To a certain extent the Dmax seems to be related to just how much ink you
can pour onto a paper before it just puddles and dries with a blotchy look.
I would guess that there is a balance between maximum ink per area, without
bleeding that is properly bonded to the coating and paper. I wonder how much
is mechanical and how much is chemical. I suspect the chemical side plays a
role in fading and warming.

I seem to recall that Eclipse was originally marketed as having "multiple
receiver layers" or something like that. Sounded like there were trying
multiple coatings on the paper.

Maybe one of the paper company representatives can give us some info.

Martin Wesley

http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html



----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Replace Eclipse with Museo?! (Paul, et all)
was Opinions on _papers for MIS inks


> Quick, silly question.
>
> What actually has to be added to a paper to enhance the blacks, like the
> Hahnemuhle papers have?
>
> If its the coating, what chemical would be in it that would allow for
> the deeper blacks?
>
> If anyone knows, why wouldn't they make their papers with the superior
> coatings that would allow these
> blacks?
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
> Richard Sintchak wrote:
> > Friday, September 27, 2002, 9:27:50 AM, Gregory Schern wrote:
> >
> > GS> The Eclipse Satine is not going to disappear anytime soon. We just
> > GS> purchased the entire inventory from the now defunct Brightcube.
There
> > GS> are 25 full pallets of it and other papers arriving today. There are
> > GS> still thousands and thousands of sheets. For example, we have 49,200
> > GS> sheets of the 190g 8.5x11 and no less than 5000 sheets of each of
the
> > GS> other sizes as well. Expect to see the roll sizes again in a matter
> > GS> of a couple of weeks. We will be posting new incredibly low pricing
> > GS> and real time inventories on our website over the weekend so that
> > GS> people have an idea of what's still available. We are also working
> > GS> diligently to continue the production of the Eclipse Satine, Semi-
> > GS> Matte, and some of the other papers as well. The Eclipse Satine Soft
> > GS> White is still available in 5x7, 8.5x11, and 11x17 sheets.
> >
> > GS> If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to contact me
> > GS> off list at info@...
> >
> > GS> Gregory Schern
> > GS> Inkjet Goodies - Photographic and Fine Art Inkjet Supplies
> > GS> www.inkjetgoodies.com
> >
> >
> > Well, I guess he decided to announce it.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >  Richard
> >
> > mailto:richard@...
> >
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