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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Black comparison MIS / piezo (was black only 2880)

2001-09-06 by sdmey4@aol.com

In a message dated 09/05/2001 9:08:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
paul.roark@... writes:

<< The comparison, which you quoted below, was of VM black only with the FULL
 variable-tone VM inkset. My point was that I don't think the black-only
 approach gives one a perfectly neutral print. >>

Yes I did get your point clearly, but here again you mention The Full 
Variable tone inkset was used? Why mention this when evaluating the VM black 
only? The rest of the inks aren't part of the test are they?  Its a black ink 
only test!
My brain is mush and I'm just trying to understand what people might be doing 
that I'm not. I'm looking at over two weeks of testing as well as a good pile 
of hours from Tyler Just to discover My black inks is probably MIS Labeled.
I Thought my vm-4k black smelled of solvent but just now I pulled some piezo 
ink out of a cart and the piezo ink was much much stronger smelling. Calls to 
MIS resulted in failure again. I asked for the stinky version of the black 
ink and there sending Double Density as they thought I wanted blacker blacks. 
I just want blacks equal to piezo! The piezo clone! I will be ordering the 
full spectrum Black as a back up.
At this point a replacement ink will fix the problem or not,  and I'm only 
out 80 hr. and 2 carts of 7000 inks and the paper to go with it. All this to 
save the expense of the Piezo pro 7000 driver.
I decided at the start to take some risk and try the MIS inks first, I hope I 
haven't gambled and lost! I'm not even that picky I just have to have equal 
Piezo quality and if the next black I try doesn't fix my black issue then I 
won't even try the VM hex set I have sitting here! Thats the set I got the 
black from!   2200.00 for the inks and Piezo Pro 24 driver is a big number 
but its looking like a bargain. 
I did do some swabs of the MIS ink set. The 100% VM -4K looks exactly like 
the 75% ink to me.
I am optimistic though.
Steve Meyers

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