Digital BW, The Print

Tom,

The warmer paper is more than just Atlex.com as a supplier issue.  I 
was allowed to crack open a box at our local CompUSA store. Same Lot 
Number, same warm paper.  This is just terrible.

Community at large: Is there any way to nip this in the bud? A few 
boxes of poor 8.5 x 11 I can live with - if it spills over to the 13 
x 19 paper............Not good!  Perhaps mass e-mails and calls to 
Epson customer service?

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tom O'Connell" 
<TomOC@s...> wrote:
> Sounds like all the yellow batch we know of is the one from Atlex. 
I 
> have a couple of boxes due to arrive Monday or Tuesday from 
> Inkjetgoodies... I will crack one open and see if it has the same 
> problem and let you know.
> 
> Tom O'Connell
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > Paul, this is really distressing news, and you are the second 
> person to
> > say this.  I certainly don't want a yellower paper than the old 
> EAM. And
> > if it has weaker blacks, what good is it?  I can't afford Photo 
rag 
> to
> > use as my normal paper. And there doesn't look like any 
> alternatives...
> > Now what do we do? 
> > 
> > The absolute blackest blacks I can get are those of the 
Generations 
> or
> > MIS archival inks, using the Enhanced blacks on the old EAM 
paper.  
> But
> > you have to have a good profile for the ink/printer/paper to make 
a
> > black and white print without crossovers.
> > 
> > If you ever test any papers that give really great blacks, please 
> keep
> > the list informed. 
> > 
> > I don't want to varnish any papers, that effect looks terrible to 
> me.
> > 
> > Jerry
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Paul Roark wrote:
> > > 
> > > I recently took delivery on some new EAM from Atlex.com, and it 
> seems to be
> > > a slightly different coating than previous batches.  The paper 
> looks a bit
> > > yellow, in fact, the X-Rite says it is just 0.01 density units 
> darker.  The
> > > blacks are weak -- 1.61 v. 1.68 for the last batch -- and the 
> profile is
> > > different.  I tweaked my 3000 curves to adjust to the new 
> coating, but I'm
> > > not happy with this batch of EAM.  (It is still 
called "Archival" 
> matte.)
> > > The Dmax is about the same as Legion Photo Matte, and the paper 
> looks yellow
> > > and dull in comparison.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone who has noticed this difference contacted Epson 
about 
> it?
> > > Frankly, I want the old coating.  This new batch of paper I 
> received just is
> > > not as good.
> > > 
> > > I also took delivery of a MediaStreet.com package of their 
Royal 
> Renaissance
> > > (189), which they claim is PhotoRag.  It is packaged 
> incorrectly.  The side
> > > marked "Print this side" is the back of the paper.  Use 
> the "tongue" or
> > > "lips" test.  The sticky side is the coated side.
> > > 
> > > I had not used Royal Renaissance of PhotoRag 189 before.  I 
find 
> it is very
> > > sensitive to the pizza wheels of the 3000 -- the most affected 
> paper I've
> > > used.  Have others noticed the problem of surface blemished 
> caused by the
> > > printer's wheels?
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > http://www.PaulRoark.com
> > > 
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