Digital BW, The Print

Me too! After reading the posts I opened a box of EAM from CompUSA. Much
warmer. All of us who use this as a very reasonably priced paper MUST
write to Epson. I'm about to do so.
 
Stan Shire
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Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tom O'Connell [mailto:TomOC@...] 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 2:55 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New EAM & MediaStreet Royal Renaissance
(PhotoRag)
 
Sounds like all the yellow batch we know of is the one from Atlex. I 
have a couple of boxes due to arrive Monday or Tuesday from 
Inkjetgoodies... I will crack one open and see if it has the same 
problem and let you know.

Tom O'Connell


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Paul, this is really distressing news, and you are the second 
person to
> say this.  I certainly don't want a yellower paper than the old 
EAM. And
> if it has weaker blacks, what good is it?  I can't afford Photo rag 
to
> use as my normal paper. And there doesn't look like any 
alternatives...
> Now what do we do? 
> 
> The absolute blackest blacks I can get are those of the Generations 
or
> MIS archival inks, using the Enhanced blacks on the old EAM paper.  
But
> you have to have a good profile for the ink/printer/paper to make a
> black and white print without crossovers.
> 
> If you ever test any papers that give really great blacks, please 
keep
> the list informed. 
> 
> I don't want to varnish any papers, that effect looks terrible to 
me.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Roark wrote:
> > 
> > I recently took delivery on some new EAM from Atlex.com, and it 
seems to be
> > a slightly different coating than previous batches.  The paper 
looks a bit
> > yellow, in fact, the X-Rite says it is just 0.01 density units 
darker.  The
> > blacks are weak -- 1.61 v. 1.68 for the last batch -- and the 
profile is
> > different.  I tweaked my 3000 curves to adjust to the new 
coating, but I'm
> > not happy with this batch of EAM.  (It is still called "Archival" 
matte.)
> > The Dmax is about the same as Legion Photo Matte, and the paper 
looks yellow
> > and dull in comparison.
> > 
> > Has anyone who has noticed this difference contacted Epson about 
it?
> > Frankly, I want the old coating.  This new batch of paper I 
received just is
> > not as good.
> > 
> > I also took delivery of a MediaStreet.com package of their Royal 
Renaissance
> > (189), which they claim is PhotoRag.  It is packaged 
incorrectly.  The side
> > marked "Print this side" is the back of the paper.  Use 
the "tongue" or
> > "lips" test.  The sticky side is the coated side.
> > 
> > I had not used Royal Renaissance of PhotoRag 189 before.  I find 
it is very
> > sensitive to the pizza wheels of the 3000 -- the most affected 
paper I've
> > used.  Have others noticed the problem of surface blemished 
caused by the
> > printer's wheels?
> > 
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > 
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