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Re: [Digital BW] New EAM

2002-09-30 by Thom McGraw

Is the yellow appearance of this new batch quite
obvious?  I ask because I received a box of letter
size from Atlex today, but with a different batch
number (02DE2001M).  I compared it to my old batch (it
is so old, it doesn't have the epson watermark on the
back) and it does appear to be warmer, but not by
much.  However, from visual inspection of a printed
image, the blacks do seem a bit weak, almost in line
with eclipse black.  But, since I don't have hardware
to measure the actual difference, it could be my
imagination.  If I hadn't just read about the
different batches, I might not have noticed.

Thom
--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> The letter-size EAM I received is lot # 02CC2004M --
> the same are yours.
> The paper white on it reads: c=0.05, m=0.05, y=0.04,
> visual=0.05.  The black
> is between 1.60 and 1.61.
> 
> Several older batches of EAM have white paper
> readings of c=0.04, m=0.04,
> y=0.03, visual=0.04.  So, the new doesn't actually
> read yellow; it's just
> not as bright.  It does have a more yellow look,
> however.
> 
> The blacks on my old EAM samples are not consistent.
>  On my 1160 I usually
> assumed I'd see between 1.64 and 1.65.  A January
> 2002 test strip that has
> been in dark storage (but close to acid paper) reads
> 1.65.  A test strip I
> printed with the 3000 yesterday on the January paper
> has a black density of
> 1.66.  I usually do expect slightly darker blacks
> with the 3000.  The new
> EAM, thus, is about 0.05 to 0.06 units weaker in the
> blacks than was the
> January batch.
> 
> On the other hand, the batch of EAM I just used up
> routinely hit 1.68 with
> the 3000.
> 
> I cut a small piece of EEM off a new roll I
> purchased.  I don't know the lot
> number.  The roll has the expected white paper
> reading of c=0.04, m=0.04,
> y=0.03, visual=0.04.  However, it's blacks only hit
> 1.64 with the 3000.
> 
> So, the paper is just inconsistent.  The new batch
> that only hits 1.60 with
> the 3000, however, is so weak I'm going to complain
> and see if there is a
> possible swap I can make for a different batch
> number.  I suppose I'll start
> with the Epson Connection # (800)463-7766.  If
> anyone has a better number,
> let us know. If that is the only batch, I suppose
> I'll keep it -- at least
> until there is a better lot number out there.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
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