Digital BW, The Print

Paul,
I have been learning and using a 1160 and  3000 with various ink 
sets over the last year. I gave up on Jon's inks after 
the "Greenies" and have been using MIS Vm (using your workflows, for 
which I thank you) and MIS FSN in the 3000. I also have been using a 
1270 for color prints. The MIS inks have been fine, not so with the 
Epson 1270. Most of my color prints have turned orange of course. 
Then along came the 2200 and I managed to find one at CompUSA.
I have printed a number of color prints using the Photo Black ink 
and some Epson paper. The results are beautiful. As I have already 
posted, the inks take a very long time to set. I a seeing a 
improvement in saturation even after two days. There is a little 
meterisium of course with glossy paper, but this reduces also with 
time to be quite acceptable to me. 
I have now progressed to printing B/W using first of all the Epson 
Grey Balancer test image. The tonal results are wonderful. The first 
image came out looking like a cool curve from the 1160 with the vm 
setup. I have adjusted using the Grey Balancer and I now am able to 
get a much more neutral print. 
One of the  features of the grey balancer is that it enables you to 
set up a print tone rather like choosing a tone with VM. 
I have not done much on this as yet since I am waiting for the Matte 
Black ink to show up.
I have not measured the DMAX with the Photo Black ink since I am 
printing on EAM. It looks really good though.
I have only just started on the 2200 learning curve, but if current 
results are much to go on in the end I might well end up getting rid 
of my other printers. What MIS and Jon should be looking at is 
producing compatible inks for it at a cheaper price. For me I am 
willing to pay for UltraChromes because of the results. 
If you like you can send me a test file and when I get the Matte 
Black I will print for you so you can test for fade etc.
You might just want to go buy one. I know that I would like a 7600 
if I could afford one!

Barry
> Barry,
> 
> No, I have not tried printing with a 2200.  The "B&W" test strip 
that I have
> is not what I'd call good B&W.  However, from what I've hear, if a 
good
> profile is generated for the machine, whether by their 
European "gray
> balancer" or otherwise, the B&W prints look very good.  The ink's 
stability
> is probably good enough to satisfy many printers.  I think it will 
still
> drift over the long haul, however.
> 
> Between the price difference for the average user, and the long-
term
> stability for the high-end sales, I think "quads" are fairly safe 
for a
> while.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> __________________________________
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: flyfishingusa2002 [mailto:tflyfish@c...]
>   Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:20 PM
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson 2200: Any word on rumored quad-
black inks?
> 
> 
>   Paul,
>   Have you tried printing on a 2200 in B/W yet?
> 
>   Barry
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
>   <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
>   > I've heard rumors about quad black inks for the 2200, but I'm
>   skeptical.
>   > Epson claims the machine is capable of good B&W as is.  If they
>   came out
>   > with B&W inks for it, wouldn't that imply that the machine 
really
>   was not up
>   > to printing B&W with the standard inkset?
>   >
>   > Paul
>   > http://www.PaulRoark.com
>   >
>   > _________________________________________
>   >
>   >   -----Original Message-----
>   >   From: chipcarterdc [mailto:chipcarterdc@h...]
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 2:45 PM
>   >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...
>   >   Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 2200: Any word on rumored quad-
black
>   inks?
>   >
>   >
>   >   Just curious.  I've read rumors in a few places that Epson 
may
>   >   introduce new black inks for the 2200.  Does anyone have any
>   info on
>   >   this?
>   >
>   >   Thanks.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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