Digital BW, The Print

A lot of smoke gets blown - and a lot of the time IJM is its own worst enemy
by advertising claims and how it has dealt with problems in the past - I'm
not into Cone bashing , but sometimes talking about 'workflows' as a problem
when this has been noticed with the original pluggin, piezopro and IP5 is a
little 'smokey' IMO

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Val Brunell" <vbrunell1@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Jon Cone on New Blacks...


> Julian...You are right about that!  And there are some things about
> piezoBW software and inks that may be less than advertised.  But I'm
> a pretty satisfied user and think Cone gets a lot of undeserved flak.
>
> Val Brunell
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas"
> <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > Val don't forget that Martin was one of the first to note the
> problems and
> > Martin uses the Piezo pluggin - always be wary of what a
> manufacturer tells
> > you
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Val Brunell" <vbrunell1@c...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 3:37 PM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Jon Cone on New Blacks...
> >
> >
> > > I appreciate Jon's in depth response to the issues that have been
> > > raging here.  I have used the PT Sel inks with the PiezoBW plugin
> and
> > > CIS on a 1280 with good results for about six weeks.
> > >
> > > A key point from Jon's message is that the PT inks have been
> > > developed specifically for the PiezoBW driver.  While it is
> important
> > > for current digital BW printing practioner's to expirement,
> slamming
> > > a product that it being used outside its recommended workflows,
> > > software, etc., is not really fair. The key is:  Does it work when
> > > used as recommended?  While the new PT inks don't satisfy everyone
> > > and may have some issues, IMO they are moving the art of digital
> BW
> > > printing forward and we would not have come this far without
> Cone's
> > > contributions.
> > >
> > > Val Brunell
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Thomas Fors" <tom@f...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jon Cone" <piezobw@c...>
> > > > To: <piezography3000@y...>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 1:52 AM
> > > > Subject: [piezoBW] New Piezography Products
> > > >
> > > >
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